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fledge
15 July 2016, 21:54
I'm working on a pistol build around the Hunger Games Mockingjay theme. This will be a slow build as I figure out each component that I think represents Katniss Everdeen's skill and the Mockingjay's symbolism (I've read the books but not yet viewed all the movies).

Build so far:
CMT SSA lower: Mockingjay laser engraved by CMT
Phase 5 hex pistol tube
Law Tactical folder

(Yes, I need to disassemble to install takedown pin... Oversight for the evening).

I repurposed the PWS ratching end plate / castle nut combo from their buffer tube set to use here. Overall my thoughts on that innovation is that it's gimmicky. I prefer a traditional approach after installing this one. But I'll leave it for now.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/Mockingjay%20AR15%20Pistol/9E7DC29E-1A2A-4577-AA6E-D1FB078EF3C2_zpsybcszx6m.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/Mockingjay%20AR15%20Pistol/9E7DC29E-1A2A-4577-AA6E-D1FB078EF3C2_zpsybcszx6m.jpg.html)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/Mockingjay%20AR15%20Pistol/24F85A3F-E550-4A50-BE56-98C120FBB44C_zps4uoznbnl.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/Mockingjay%20AR15%20Pistol/24F85A3F-E550-4A50-BE56-98C120FBB44C_zps4uoznbnl.jpg.html)

I'm unsure what finished barrel length or caliber will be. 10.3" 556? 9" or shorter 300Blk? I may let the right handguard dictate the barrel length and caliber. The mission is two-fold:

1) a PDW that can cross state lines and fit in a discreet pack.

2) a morale boomstick that reminds that Panem does not have the last word.

alamo5000
15 July 2016, 22:18
Unless you're gonna suppress it why .300?

Also I am curious as to how the buffer system works with a side folder like that?

UWone77
15 July 2016, 22:50
Unless you're gonna suppress it why .300?

Also I am curious as to how the buffer system works with a side folder like that?

The folding stock is not for shooting if that's what you're wondering.

Adds length when you shoot it, folding it provides no benefit for me personally. Seems like a lot of coin for a gimmick. Not that I'm saying I've never paid through the nose for a minimal gain in my gun. [:D]

alamo5000
15 July 2016, 22:58
The folding stock is not for shooting if that's what you're wondering.

Adds length when you shoot it, folding it provides no benefit for me personally. Seems like a lot of coin for a gimmick. Not that I'm saying I've never paid through the nose for a minimal gain in my gun. [:D]

Give me an AK folder and I will give you a big giant grin on my face [:D]

I was just wondering how the bolt, buffer, spring, etc is all retained and function in that set up. It does seem sort of gimmicky but hey, it's not my money.

It just seems that the extra length added between the end of the reciever and the castle nut would need some engineering to make it work right.

fledge
15 July 2016, 23:25
The folder comes with a spacer that slides into the rear of the bolt carrier, held snugly with o-rings. Cycles like normal when locked into position. Will fire single shot when folded.

I do appreciate the added length of pull with the folder. It's really generous with an A5. I've not yet seen a decision that says you can't shoulder a buffer tube that lacks a brace... (Please enlighten me if one exists).

I've had this folder since the gen 3m came out. I've installed it and uninstalled it repeatedly, trying to find a purpose for it. It's heavy but well built. I've had no niche purpose for it until now.

HOWEVER, my small discreet pack is too small for a non-folder. And the pockets in the pack fit Pmags perfectly, as if made for them. A suitable traveling /daypack / backcountry / camping setup. I could disassemble it for similar transport but that would require added features to secure the two parts in the bag. Together, it remains a unit ready to deploy.

As for 300blk, it is made for short barrels. It burns its powder within 9". Less concussion /fireballs verses comparable 556. Plus, I can suppress it. The discreet bag has a pouch that will fit that too. I already have multiple 556 and 300 builds so I'm not adding a new caliber with the decision. I've not used a 556 barrel shorter than 10".

Aragorn
16 July 2016, 12:08
Pretty slick

Jerry R
16 July 2016, 12:42
I'm not going to "run right out" ... but I like it. Nicely done !

fledge
16 July 2016, 19:37
Thanks, gentlemen. Not sure what the next step will be but I'll update here, gimmicks and all.

Aragorn
16 July 2016, 19:57
What discreet pack are you using?

fledge
16 July 2016, 20:43
Camelbak HAWG NV. Older civilian style.

wsaraceni
18 July 2016, 09:51
Camelbak HAWG NV. Older civilian style.

i think thats begging for a noveske diplomat with kx5 and NQR-9 or NHR-9

http://www.rogtac.com/noveske-gen-iii-7-5-diplomat-nqr-9-complete-upper-5-56mm/ similar to that.

fledge
18 July 2016, 10:31
That does look sharp. However, the goal will be to shoot suppressed and unsuppressed.

Pyzik
19 July 2016, 09:34
Very cool!

Aragorn
21 July 2016, 13:27
How does this look with your bootleg upper? My engraver just called me and turns out that my Rainier lower lower, the one advertised (or at least shown) on their website as having a blank left side, turns out it has a mountain logo there and can't be engraved.

So.... I'm gonna have to see if I can actually even GET a RA lower without branding on both sides of the mag well, and failing that... I'm now looking at a CMT to engrave and pair with my bootleg upper.

Be super helpful if RA would answer their phones.

fledge
22 July 2016, 04:18
That's a bummer.

I can get you pics when I get back in town this coming week.

I also caught a pic on SMOS IG account of a bootleg lower...

Aragorn
22 July 2016, 11:39
Well, turns out Rainier had just sent me the wrong lower. They sent a shipping label to return the wrong lower since it hadn't been transferred to me yet, and told me the correct lower would ship out today.

No shipping notification yet, but it's only just after 1:30 central time.

Bootleg lower could be sweet... Did a quick Google search. Came up empty handed.

wsaraceni
22 July 2016, 13:12
That's a bummer.

I can get you pics when I get back in town this coming week.

I also caught a pic on SMOS IG account of a bootleg lower...

Wasn't that just a sticker on a SMOS gfy lower?

UWone77
22 July 2016, 16:39
Well, turns out Rainier had just sent me the wrong lower. They sent a shipping label to return the wrong lower since it hadn't been transferred to me yet, and told me the correct lower would ship out today.

No shipping notification yet, but it's only just after 1:30 central time.

Bootleg lower could be sweet... Did a quick Google search. Came up empty handed.

LOL... the hits keep coming with your Rainier saga.

Aragorn
22 July 2016, 18:57
LOL... the hits keep coming with your Rainier saga.

Dude... I'm sayin'.... Lol

fledge
22 July 2016, 19:25
Wasn't that just a sticker on a SMOS gfy lower?

Doh! That explains a few things.

Aragorn, glad it's working out.

fledge
27 July 2016, 22:29
Picked up a CMT upper from a fellow member which arrived today. New Griffin rail arrived Monday. Sionics BCG and suppressed-only 11.5" barrel has been waiting for a home. Geissele charging handle and Geissele gas block.

The Mockingjay pistol has an upper now. The lower still needs completing. And the upper works with my form 1 SSA too. ;)

I decided that the V7 upper with 6.5" 300blk barrel will also double on the Mockingjay lower when the folding stock is needed. No need for short upper blackout redundancy. That upper is pending as VSeven is still finishing their upper and short matching rail.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/Mockingjay%20AR15%20Pistol/15E48F9C-C44F-4588-93EB-2ACCC68F0757_zpskwhrengm.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/Mockingjay%20AR15%20Pistol/15E48F9C-C44F-4588-93EB-2ACCC68F0757_zpskwhrengm.jpg.html)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/Mockingjay%20AR15%20Pistol/587E0FF1-1A21-46EB-811D-DAF498E2DDE4_zps2exwln1i.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/Mockingjay%20AR15%20Pistol/587E0FF1-1A21-46EB-811D-DAF498E2DDE4_zps2exwln1i.jpg.html)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/CMT/99AD010E-6FC6-4E08-9FCB-4F1A3FDE08BC_zps7psewnge.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/CMT/99AD010E-6FC6-4E08-9FCB-4F1A3FDE08BC_zps7psewnge.jpg.html)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/CMT/E04BB9B1-DFBB-4DE7-A1E2-C80122BD48C1_zpsb2i2p3ah.jpg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/CMT/E04BB9B1-DFBB-4DE7-A1E2-C80122BD48C1_zpsb2i2p3ah.jpg.html)

Thoughts on Griffin rail. I highly recommend it. Install took some time but I timed it right. Included shims work. The install is straightforward overall in a beautifully executed design. You get a lot of bang for your buck. I purchased without gas block which put it around $200 for everything else in the kit. This is a serious deal.

The rail doesn't quite look right with a SMOS upper. But this CMT upper is right at home here.

alamo5000
27 July 2016, 22:50
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/CMT/E04BB9B1-DFBB-4DE7-A1E2-C80122BD48C1_zpsb2i2p3ah.jpg[/URL]

Thoughts on Griffin rail. I highly recommend it. Install took some time but I timed it right. Included shims work. The install is straightforward overall in a beautifully executed design. You get a lot of bang for your buck. I purchased without gas block which put it around $200 for everything else in the kit. This is a serious deal.

The rail doesn't quite look right with a SMOS upper. But this CMT upper is right at home here.

That rail and upper combo does look very sweet. Holy smokes man. Looking really good.