Hudson MFG H9

[GOST]

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SPECS

MSRP: $1,147.00

OVERALL LENGTH 7.625in

OVERALL HEIGHT 5.225in

OVERALL WIDTH 1.24in

BARREL LENGTH 4.28in

WEIGHT UNLOADED 34oz

TRIGGER PULL WEIGHT 4.5-5 lbs

TRIGGER TRAVEL .115in

MAG CAPACITY 15

SIGHT RADIUS 6.26in

G10 VZ GRIPS

TRIJICON HD FRONT SIGHT

G10 HOGUE LOWER BACKSTRAP


https://www.youtube.com/watchv=gtDEJNGcUQU&feature=youtu.be

http://www.hudsonmfg.com

[Uffdaphil]

Should have called it the Hornet.

[GOST]

http://www.recoilweb.com/hudson-mfg-new-company-and-mysterious-pistol-118872.html

[GOST]

New info released today.

[SINNER]

For some reason I see this weapon being a total fail. Likely because who really cares that it is a striker fired 1911 style trigger. I honestly expected more after all the hype.

[Joelski]

Who the hell ever they are, they spammed my inbox today!

Didn't a Hudson somethingorother team up with Bond Arms on a failed pocket pistol in the recent past?

[fledge]

My first thought: SiCo Maxim unsuppressed.

[Axlnut]

I want to care so bad. In fact I've worked on a mildly similar project off and on.

Here's the problem as I see it. You have this and the Avidity thing coming out this year. Both supposed to Glock-ify the 1911, or 1911 the Glock or something.

The Avidity looks very practical and less than half the expected price of this Edsel, er Hudson..

To replace the venerable G19 for me personally, no matter how great it is on paper, it's going to need a solid real-world track record built.

R51 anyone?

[schambers]

I'm actually interested in this just because its a little different.

I'm guessing they aren't going to be manufacturing in large numbers so the price point seems pretty reasonable, considering how proprietary and weird this thing is.

Also curious to see what the final production models look like in terms of fit, finish and materials, and how far the internals really differ from an 1911 in function.

[GOST]

Will be interesting to see what lights people mount on these.

[SINNER]

Will be interesting to see what lights people mount on these.

I was wondering the same thing. Between that low rail and that half finished looking attempt at a beaver tail it looks like a ergonomic fiasco.

[Deadwing]

It's different, that's for sure. It would have to really "wow" me to shell out that kind of coin for one, though.

[JGifford]

The only way this thing will sell is if enough people say "holy crap it's stable for follow-ups due to the low bore axis!"

That is its one potential killer feature, IMO

How killer it is, remains to be seen.

Given the size and weight, I view it as a "gamer gun". If it shaves a few tenths off of splits...

[FortTom]

I think the Russians hacked the design software.

[Deadwing]

Speaking of Russia, what ever happened to the Strike One?

[Pyzik]

I was pretty excited when I first heard of it coming out and some of the hype. I do think it looks cool.
Was hoping it'd come in around $800 but was expecting $1,100. It's out of my range but would like to fondle one.

The marketing video is cool.

[GOST]

Probably will be fun to shoot, and they did a good marketing job. With its price point I don't know how well it'll do against pistols like a Sig Legion. I think that the market that would be interested in the H9 will instead mod out their Glocks and M&P's. The H9 also will have a very limited number of holsters and light options.

[Deadwing]

When i imagine a Surefire X300 mounted on it, awkward immediately comes to mind. Actuating the controls on a light like the X300 would be really awkward. Mounting and use of accessories will definitely be a problem.

It would seem that having the full weight of the recoil assembly that far forward, plus the additional weight of the forward slide would really help mitigate muzzle flip and make follow up shot super fast. It looks like it'll be a really nice shooter, but maybe not so practical as a duty/carry weapon for those who like to have a light mounted. If it has a decent trigger, i'd take one over a pimped out Glock or M&P.

[GOST]

With it's dimensions, 15 round capacity and it being a striker it's in the Glock G19 realm. The G19 is about $600 cheaper and over 10 oz. lighter. So I assume that's not the market they are trying to compete against. So was the H9 designed to compete against 2011's? It's cheaper than a race gun, but I doubt the trigger will be close. And will it shoot flatter than a compensated 2011? In my opinion I see striker fired pistols as carry weapons, and don't see a benefit of not having a hammer on a gamer's pistol.

[rxer311]

For the price...

I'll buy a sig.

[schambers]

I don't know if its the novelty of the design but the more I see of the pistol, the more interesting it is to me. Definitely on my want list at this point. Going to keep an eye on how the first production models perform over time.

[Stone]

Who the hell ever they are, they spammed my inbox today!

Didn't a Hudson somethingorother team up with Bond Arms on a failed pocket pistol in the recent past?

Yeah were not supposed to talk about that...

A striker fired 1911? Why? Seems like one of those projects someone invested way to much money into and its too late to pull the plug on it. So they just keep dumping money into it and try to convince people its something when its not.

[Deadwing]

With it's dimensions, 15 round capacity and it being a striker it's in the Glock G19 realm. The G19 is about $600 cheaper and over 10 oz. lighter. So I assume that's not the market they are trying to compete against. So was the H9 designed to compete against 2011's? It's cheaper than a race gun, but I doubt the trigger will be close. And will it shoot flatter than a compensated 2011? In my opinion I see striker fired pistols as carry weapons, and don't see a benefit of not having a hammer on a gamer's pistol.

A Glock might start out $600 cheaper, but how many people (besides me) actually run stock Glocks anymore? Here's a $2800 f@#$ing Glock! (https://www.rainierarms.com/agency-arms-urban-combat-glock-19-gen-4-battleworn-fde-black-agency-barrel) That's damn near the cost of three Hudson's at retail. Street price, you probably could buy three of them for $2800.

As for striker versus hammer fired guns for carry, i carry a hammer fired gun more than a striker fired gun. I just like hammer fired guns better. Conversely, i know more people who run striker fired guns in competition than who run hammer fired guns. Butas you said, it's an opinion/preference thing. I would be curios to see what the trends are these days.

As for what market Hudson is trying to actually compete against, i haven't a clue. Their product is unique enough that it doesn't neatly fit into any existing market category. Maybe they're trying to forge their own category...

[GOST]

A Glock might start out $600 cheaper, but how many people (besides me) actually run stock Glocks anymore? Here's a $2800 f@#$ing Glock! (https://www.rainierarms.com/agency-arms-urban-combat-glock-19-gen-4-battleworn-fde-black-agency-barrel) That's damn near the cost of three Hudson's at retail. Street price, you probably could buy three of them for $2800.

Maybe the market is different where you're from, but down here about the only part most change out on a Glock is sights. We have guys who like highly customized Glocks, but they are very rare. The majority of Glock owners and AR-15 owners down here do not customize their guns, maybe one out of a hundred Glock owners I know personally run a customized Glock.

[Deadwing]

Maybe the market is different where you're from, but down here about the only part most change out on a Glock is sights. We have guys who like highly customized Glocks, but they are very rare. The majority of Glock owners and AR-15 owners down here do not customize their guns, maybe one out of a hundred Glock owners I know personally run a customized Glock.

Maybe i need to move.[BD] I don't know who is buying them, but Rainier Arms (and many others) sure don't seem to have any problem selling Agency Glocks, which run $2k-$3k, along with ZEV Glocks which clock in at around $2k. And those are complete pistols. That's not even counting all the modified slides, triggers, barrels, etc. that get sold and installed on pimped out Austrian tupperware. And just taking a look around the Glock photo gallery on this forum, there aren't many unmolested Glocks. A lot of frame mods, slide work, trigger work, etc. Which is cool. I'm not knocking it by any means. i just can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a Glock (although i would really love to have Battle Cock work his magic on a G19 for me). I do spend my share of stupid money on polymer handguns (HKs), however that's more a function of them costing more to begin with. And the modifications i perform on them are all done using factory HK parts, and are generally configurations that could be special ordered from HK. But beyond new sights and tinkering with factory Glock trigger spring and connector combinations, my Glocks are stock. At any rate, expensive, heavily modified Glocks does appear to be a thing. So $1100 or whatever MSRP is on the Hudson is something i don't see as a limiting factor for them.

[SINNER]

I don't care what anyone ever says, a 2k Glock is a fucking joke. It's laughable the money they command for slides and other gimmicks.

[Deadwing]

I don't care what anyone ever says, a 2k Glock is a fucking joke. It's laughable the money they command for slides and other gimmicks.

I couldn't agree more.

[Stone]

Same here. My 17 has night sights and a tungsten guide rod. Perfect carry pistol. I guess we all like to spend our fun money in different ways...

[GOST]

There are some expensive Glocks out there that shoot good, but most Glock owners are not doing over a thousand dollars worth of mods to them. You see a lot of pics of heavily modified Glocks because their owners are proud of them, or you see people advertising their work on them. My LGS has a $1,900 ZEV that has been sitting on their shelf for almost a year they can't sell. There is a good sized market for Glock mod's but most people around here keep their carry piece stock.

The H9 will probably be a fun gun to shoot. I don't know if it needs a rail, a light down there will be hard to use it's controls. It'll take year before the H9 can be classified to shoot in production class.

[Deadwing]

The H9 will probably be a fun gun to shoot. I don't know if it needs a rail, a light down there will be hard to use it's controls.

That was my first thought: a weapon mounted light would be difficult to operate. Maybe something like the Surefire XC1 with top mounted controls could be developed if this pistol takes off and warrants the R&D. Or a pressure pad on the grip would work in actuating the light. With the modular/removable grip panels, i'm sure Crimson Trace will come out with something for this gun as well. But i like your idea of no rail. A "slick" version, much like Sig's SAS series of pistols would be neat.

[Cotton68spc]

I have one buddy that shot it said it was amazing to shoot he hated the ideal till he shot it , then I have another buddy that was over the top excited , after shooting it at shot he wasn't that impressed. It is cool to see something different who knows with this and the maximum we might be seeing some pretty weird stuff in the future


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[Liberal_Strong]

am i missing anything else beside this being a funky pistol? is there an advantage on the..bulk?

[schambers]

History:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=g1LNq1x7-5E

[schambers]

Mechanics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6Giq4uEKyOA