Question for Slip 2000 users

[FortTom]

My anti-virus software won't let me access Slip's website, say's it's malicious. So I want to ask this question. I don't like my current lube and cleaning regime, but here's my situation. I live in a condo and use a spare bedroom for a gun room. I need an odorless, non toxic solution. It's my understanding, but I need confirmation, that Slip 2000 EWL is both non-toxic and odorless.

Also, is it just a lubricant or is EWL a CLP?

Thanks,

FT

[Aragorn]

It is odorless and nontoxic. Is also a CLP.

[Slippers]

It's great for home use. My wife hates any of the lubes that have an odor.

[FortTom]

Thanks, for the quick answers, I'm going to see if I can find some locally and give it a try.

FT[:D]

[GOST]

I use Slip 2000 EWL also, another good product that's nontoxic but has a pleasant minty smell is Froglube. I've had good luck out of both products.

[Eric]

I have a couple samples around if you want to try before you buy.

[Pyzik]

It is odorless and nontoxic. Is also a CLP.

This man speaks the truth

[Pyzik]

I have a couple samples around if you want to try before you buy.

Same here. I'd send ya a small bottle if you want one.

[FortTom]

I use Slip 2000 EWL also, another good product that's nontoxic but has a pleasant minty smell is Froglube. I've had good luck out of both products.
GOST, I had pretty good luck with Frog Lube, but I was always cleaning after shooting. Then, after testing a couple of different weapons, and only firing a hand full of shots, I just said the heck with it and threw them in the safe. Pulled the LR10 out of the safe, and it was a gummed up mess.

What I really don't understand was how this could happen. If you follow the directions, heat the metal to about 100 F with a hair dryer or whatever, and put on a thin coat, then wipe off the part well, there should not be enough FL to turn into a gummy mess. The metal should feel slippery, but you shouldn't have enough to make a mess. Well, it gets into the pores between the peaks and valleys of the material, and I'm living proof that that stuff comes out and puts a gummy mess everywhere. Pulled other guns out of safe, and similar results.

Bottom line, I give up. It was good in theory, but isn't working for me. So, I'm going to try the SLIP products.

Thanks,
FT[:D]

[FortTom]

I have a couple samples around if you want to try before you buy.


Same here. I'd send ya a small bottle if you want one.

Thanks for the generous offer. Let me snoop around locally and see if I can round some up locally. After a lot of effort (long story) I've resolved some serious issues with the BCU on my LR10, have another AR I want to test, and need to be ready to go to the range by this coming Tuesday. If I can't find any locally, I'll just use some Hoppes or something to get me there, and I can order some SLIP products from Amazon or something. I appreciate the offers, though!

FT[:D]

[gatordev]

If you follow the directions, heat the metal to about 100 F with a hair dryer or whatever, and put on a thin coat, then wipe off the part well, there should not be enough FL to turn into a gummy mess.

When a lube requires me to pull out a hair dryer and worry about surface temperature AND then have to wipe stuff down a second time, I quickly lose interest.

Just grab some EWL. If you want to clean every time, put some on the parts. If you don't clean and need to head to the range at the last second, squirt some lube on the critical parts and shoot. My only complaint with EWL (and much more so with regular Slip) is that it tends to vanish from NiB and the like surfaces if it sits for a while, but that's not necessarily Slip's fault, and it's easily remedied with another couple of dabs before shooting.

[Deadwing]

I can confirm what others have said: odorless, non-toxic, and a CLP.

Other benefits i've found with Slip 2000EWL: a little goes a long way, it's designed to bond and penetrate the surface so it's still working even if the surface looks dry, it doesn't get sticky or gummy no matter how long i've let a weapon sit after applying it, and it works the same regardless of how hot or cold it is outside.

[Eric]

Slip 2000 makes a good cleaner as well. The odor is very mild, reminiscent of Windex.

[Uffdaphil]

I like the Slip EWL 30 to reduce pooling in the buffer tube while in the safe. It's just sightly thicker. I slop the regular 2000 on for the range. Weaponshield seems the same as 2000 to me.

[MoxyDave]

Pro tip: Mobil 1 full synthetic is also odorless. JUST SAYIN! [:)]

[FortTom]

Pro tip: Mobil 1 full synthetic is also odorless. JUST SAYIN! [:)]
Well, now you chime in...[:D] Just ordered a 16oz. spray bottle of EWL from Amazon! Special price on same day shipping!!. Mobil 1 would definetly be cheaper, but is it non-toxic? (another pre-requisite since I'm using it in the house), and will it work as a CLP also? If so, that might be the way to go, another time. Not one gun or sporting goods store in this whole area stocks SLIP products. Wasted a whole afternoon driving around looking for it. Freaking Hoppes and Rem oil at all but one which carried Shooters Choice. You'd think at least the big chains would offer a choice.:mad:

[Slippers]

Pro tip: Mobil 1 full synthetic is also odorless. JUST SAYIN! [:)]

Until you shoot the gun, then it smells terrible and doesn't go away when you get home even after cleaning. I tried switching to it, but with suppressors it wasn't good.

[FortTom]

Well, Amazon came through with the same day delivery deal, now I have 16oz. of the stuff to test it (EWL) out with. Not looking forward to cleaning all AR/LAR's, plus bolt action, .22's, shotguns and pistols to remove Frog Lube and clean and re-lube them all. Not looking forward to that at all.[crazy] Should have a good grasp on how I feel about it after all of that.;)

FT

[JGifford]

I replaced my EWL with Go-Juice 6mo ago. Both work well, GJ is just more corrosion inhibiting, is the main thing I noticed.

[Aragorn]

^^^ Really? Interesting, I'll have to try it.

[GOST]

I haven't tried ALG Go-Juice yet, but I've heard a lot of good things about it.

[FortTom]

I replaced my EWL with Go-Juice 6mo ago. Both work well, GJ is just more corrosion inhibiting, is the main thing I noticed.

How was corrosion giving you problems. I don't have corrosion problems with any products that I've tried. However, in N.KY our weather doesn't cause a lot of corrosion problems. I've been camping and have had numerous weapons - at different times - in the tent or trunk of the vehicle, and it does create a lot of humidity, but I just use a thin wipe down of a good protector, on the firearms to prevent any kind of corrosion. I realize that your situation is unique to your environment, useage, etc. and you may have a whole different set of issues to deal with.

Were you having corrosion problems using EWL? You stated GJ is more corrosion inhibiting. Are you still having corrosion issues, but to a lesser extent than you did with EWL?

Just curious, as I would think under fairly hard use EWL, or any good CLP should inhibit corrosion, used judiciously? If you're hunting in the rain for several days, I could see any CLP failing, eventually, if you don't wipe down and reapply once back in camp. Or if you're former MIL and you humped your gear for two or three days in the rain, using a pancho for a tent, how corrosion might be a problem.

Not doubting your findings, just curious.

FT[:D]

[gatordev]

How was corrosion giving you problems. I don't have corrosion problems with any products that I've tried. However, in N.KY our weather doesn't cause a lot of corrosion problems. I've been camping and have had numerous weapons - at different times - in the tent or trunk of the vehicle, and it does create a lot of humidity, but I just use a thin wipe down of a good protector, on the firearms to prevent any kind of corrosion. I realize that your situation is unique to your environment, useage, etc. and you may have a whole different set of issues to deal with.


SwissyJim had posted a link some time ago showing a corrosion test using many popular lubes and Slip was a very low performer when exposed to the elements, especially on unfinished metal. How much that actually applies to "you" is obviously a different matter.

Because I've shot a lot of corrosive ammo out of one of my ARs, I've kept an eye on it while using Slip EWL. I've found that as long I've cleaned the ferric surfaces, there hasn't been any noteworthy corrosion, but if not all of the corrosive material has been washed away, Slip doesn't really do anything to combat it. I found this to be the case in both SOCAL (which has surprisingly higher amount of humidity than many think) and in FL, where I think the sun drips water in the summer.

Slip still wins for me for it's other properties, so I keep using it and just make sure I clean well on the salty gun.

[FortTom]

SwissyJim had posted a link some time ago showing a corrosion test using many popular lubes and Slip was a very low performer when exposed to the elements, especially on unfinished metal. How much that actually applies to "you" is obviously a different matter.

Because I've shot a lot of corrosive ammo out of one of my ARs, I've kept an eye on it while using Slip EWL. I've found that as long I've cleaned the ferric surfaces, there hasn't been any noteworthy corrosion, but if not all of the corrosive material has been washed away, Slip doesn't really do anything to combat it. I found this to be the case in both SOCAL (which has surprisingly higher amount of humidity than many think) and in FL, where I think the sun drips water in the summer.

Slip still wins for me for it's other properties, so I keep using it and just make sure I clean well on the salty gun.
Immediately after seeing that you responded to this, I assumed you were going to be talking from an environment with a bunch of ocean spray in the air. Sort of the extreme difference bettween SD and China Lake, or further north up into the San Jacinto's or crossing the saddle into the Nellis bomb range. Totally dry (most times[:)]) air. I think SJim is on are very near the ocean, too, if I'm not mistaken. In that case, both of your situations are in the "extreme" or "near extreme" category, given the salt water issues you both have to deal with.

Since I'm just starting with EWL, I'll keep a close eye on my weapons, for corrosion. We do get lots of humidity in the summer, but 99% of the time, everything's in the safe in a controlled environment, dry and cool. I wish I knew ahead of time that EWL was not a good corrosion protectant before I ordered a 16oz. bottle, but I guess I'll just keep a close eye on things and see how things go.
FT;)

[gatordev]

I wouldn't say salt spray is the issue, more just plain humidity. In my previous post, I was talking about the salts from the corrosive ammo, which is certainly an extreme case, but one Slip EWL wasn't designed to combat from the get-go, so I can't blame Slip for any issues there.

That said, I use Slip EWL on all of my conventional rifles/pistols and have had zero corrosion problems that couldn't be attributed to sweat and/or rain exposure. And that's with a significantly lazy cleaning schedule on many of them, so I would use what you got with few concerns. You made a good choice.