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FortTom
26 March 2017, 10:20
This may seem a bit silly, but curiosity is killing me.

I watch a whole lot of "real life" crime shows, and I've noticed something about what happens when a bad guy kills someone with a knife. It seems they almost always end up cutting their hand when they stab their victims, and very often an extremely bad cut down to bone.

Usually the attacker is just some scumbag with a knife, not a trained expert.

It seems that the blood is part of the problem, and acts as a lubricant causing a lot of havoc for the attacker, resulting in injuries.

How, as an expert do you avoid this?

FT[:D]

voodoo_man
26 March 2017, 14:46
I have no idea what a "trained knife fighter" is - that the old school "gentleman's duel" style stiletto boot knife street fight guys used to have over "broads" in the 50's ?

Cotton68spc
26 March 2017, 15:09
I have no idea what a "trained knife fighter" is - that the old school "gentleman's duel" style stiletto boot knife street fight guys used to have over "broads" in the 50's ?

^^^^LOL

no expert but a good guard will keep your hand from slipping up , but in a knife you will get cut I don't care how trained you are and how badly trained the attacker is at some point your getting cut


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Joelski
26 March 2017, 15:28
Knicks are hard to avoid, even during practice (see butterfly knives), but deep, self-inflicted cuts seem like a failure to keep your shit out of the way. I'm no SME, but I've taken classes with some name brand dudes, as well as some sword training.

Guns > knives FTW!

UWone77
26 March 2017, 16:38
You see this a lot with stabbing scenes. Their hands will often slip off the knife and cut themselves in the process. When you hit bone, the stabbing motion tends to stop very abruptly.

FortTom
26 March 2017, 16:55
I have no idea what a "trained knife fighter" is - that the old school "gentleman's duel" style stiletto boot knife street fight guys used to have over "broads" in the 50's ?

I guess I would define it as someone who has a lot, to extensive training in the handling of a knife for someone caught in the unenviable position of having to defend themselves with a knife, as opposed to someone in the street fighting over broads in the 50's. Someone who might make use of those "blue" knives to train themselves in the discipline, that you take pictures of, to post on the forum, that come with the $500 "fighting" knives, that make knife " training " much smarter than using a sharpened blade??[:D] Something like that might make you a trained knife figher?

FT

FortTom
26 March 2017, 16:58
You see this a lot with stabbing scenes. Their hands will often slip off the knife and cut themselves in the process. When you hit bone, the stabbing motion tends to stop very abruptly.

Yeah, that was what I was alluding too. Would someone with a lot of training be able to avoid that? Or do you just hope like hell that it doesn't happen?

FT[:D]

Joelski
26 March 2017, 17:34
What you are seeing is what Hollywood wants you to see. The real life effect is quite a bit less dramatic.

BoilerUp
26 March 2017, 17:55
My technique to avoid this is to always bring a gun to a knife fight.

FortTom
26 March 2017, 17:59
My technique to avoid this is to always bring a gun to a knife fight.

Yeah, main reason I just carry a smaller "utility" knife.[:D]

UWone77
26 March 2017, 18:20
Yeah, that was what I was alluding too. Would someone with a lot of training be able to avoid that? Or do you just hope like hell that it doesn't happen?

FT[:D]

That's like asking someone for advise on how not to get punched in a fist fight.

You can be given all the advise you want, but typically that only works on a stationary target or under ideal conditions. Such as trying to teach people to hit with an open hand on hard spots on the target, and a closed hand on soft parts. When people are moving and fighting back, it usually doesn't work out.

Just don't stab anyone [:D]

UWone77
26 March 2017, 18:21
Unless this is the kind of knife fight you were thinking of... then I don't know who can help you.


https://youtu.be/ki4hl7NRjWs

FortTom
26 March 2017, 18:31
Ha..ha.. Yeah... that[:D]
If I ever see Segal chopping veggies for a salad, I'll certainly turn and run.

UWone77
26 March 2017, 18:31
Or... since you asked... just throw the knives... you won't get cut.


https://youtu.be/doVYFjIJcfU

FortTom
26 March 2017, 19:06
Ha..ha..ha.. So much for "don't bring a knife to a gun fight[:D]

voodoo_man
26 March 2017, 19:19
I guess I would define it as someone who has a lot, to extensive training in the handling of a knife for someone caught in the unenviable position of having to defend themselves with a knife, as opposed to someone in the street fighting over broads in the 50's. Someone who might make use of those "blue" knives to train themselves in the discipline, that you take pictures of, to post on the forum, that come with the $500 "fighting" knives, that make knife " training " much smarter than using a sharpened blade??[:D] Something like that might make you a trained knife figher?

FT

oh those! Yeah I know about them.

They were designed in such a way that makes you not cut yourself.

[:D]

FortTom
27 March 2017, 13:49
Just don't stab anyone [:D]

Well, o.k., dammit! Guess I'll have to find something else to fill in that time slot for today.:mad:

Joelski
27 March 2017, 14:18
oh those! Yeah I know about them.

They were designed in such a way that makes you not cut yourself.

[:D]

Wait a minute...

You have a knife that cuts other things, but not yourself!?! I call shenanigans, sir!




















[:D]

Joelski
27 March 2017, 14:51
Behold!

Lynn Thompson has probably hacked more flesh than ten Ronin, give or take a couple neighborhood butchers.


https://youtu.be/bANlFuNOOyQ

Mmmmm! Scrapple!

FortTom
27 March 2017, 15:05
Does somebody make a concealed holster for that?;)

Joelski
28 March 2017, 10:50
Michonne open carries. Get yer badass on and strap up, yo!