Colt Expanse 1/7 14.5" M4 SOCOM Colt Barrel (P&W Vortex) Chrome-lined Bore & Chamber

[UWone77]

That's what I've been getting at. It's not even a Colt lower. The last "Colt" lower I bought was apparently an Expanse take-off (based off of the parts and manufacturing). The manufacturing itself is not the standard Colt quality and I wouldn't be surprised if it was done by the TX/Colt Competition company.

The lower functions fine, but even fitment isn't the same. I'll shoot it until I die, but it was frustrating to figure out what I bought after it was too late.

When they first came out, I handled 2 or 3 of them as I was considering a purchase. The lowers seemed to be the same as my other M4Carbine Colt Lowers. I don't know if they've changed over the production run, like the uppers have. At the time, it was painfully obvious the upper was suspect. Markings, quality, crap handguards, ect.

Ended up passing until I could find OEM's in stock.

[Sancho Panza]

Texas Colt Competition Company by all accounts is Tango Uniform; and yet, the FAIL YouTube video gentleman sez the Lower itself is the SAME as current production Colt...

[UWone77]

Texas Colt Competition Company by all accounts is Tango Uniform; and yet, the FAIL YouTube video gentleman sez the Lower itself is the SAME as current production Colt...

That's what we're trying to say. The Expanse is inconsistent from run to run.

[Sancho Panza]

True, dat.

Providence, with some investigation, in my case:

[gatordev]

Aha! The same element as the piston debate; you knew and bought anyway. Rolling the dice when the odds seem hard to beat, regardless of what others say is a human element!

No, that's not what I'm saying. What I bought was advertised as a "M4 Carbine-marked lower," which at the time, wasn't coincident with an Expanse lower. I thought I was buying a new 6920 lower at the normal 6920 lower price point. When I got it, I noticed things were different, but I accepted the transfer. Then I did a little research and found it had all of the elements of an Expanse (machining and FCG, with a slight fitment issue) because, as UW just said, the productions runs aren't consistent. Not much I could do at that point, so i pressed on and started shooting it. But it was still annoying.

[Sancho Panza]

Would you be so kind as to post pics of yours, for comparison?

Thank you.

[Joelski]

No, that's not what I'm saying. What I bought was advertised as a "M4 Carbine-marked lower," which at the time, wasn't coincident with an Expanse lower. I thought I was buying a new 6920 lower at the normal 6920 lower price point. When I got it, I noticed things were different, but I accepted the transfer. Then I did a little research and found it had all of the elements of an Expanse (machining and FCG, with a slight fitment issue) because, as UW just said, the productions runs aren't consistent. Not much I could do at that point, so i pressed on and started shooting it. But it was still annoying.

Check. I remember lots of talk of this on another forum at the time. Too risky, IMO and reflective of the times Colt has fallen on.

[Sancho Panza]

One last pic, before the upgrades begin...

HDR Pic:

[Sancho Panza]

Expanse A2 Hard, Slippery, & Shiny Pistol Grip on Left.

Genuine Colt A2 Pistol Grip (LE6920 OEM-1 Take Off) on Right.

Softer, Firm, with a Powder Grey Finish.

My Carbine Feels & Looks Much Better already.

Courtesy of DonFlynn.

[Mrgunsngear]

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FWIW a DPMS Oracle I just reviewed had the same upper

[Dstrbdmedic167]

FWIW a DPMS Oracle I just reviewed had the same upper

Glad to see you here again!


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[Sancho Panza]

FWIW a DPMS Oracle I just reviewed had the same upper

May be where the odd parts came from?

[Former11B]

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2 of these Colt 5/20 Mags came with my R6601 Sporter HBAR.

If you need a legit Colt 30rd USGI mag, let me know

[Sancho Panza]

If you need a legit Colt 30rd USGI mag, let me know

Can always use another one; want my snailer?

[Sancho Panza]

Couple of more Bolt Close-up Pics, per Request:







6920 on Left, CE2000HB on Right...