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Thread: First SBR in process. CMT PDW
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12 August 2017, 08:12 #16
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12 August 2017, 08:41 #17
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12 August 2017, 09:18 #18
As long as it's a temporary change and you keep the original upper you can put any length you want. The ATF recommends that you send them notification if you intend to change to a different length, otherwise. You won't get a confirmation, it's a one way notification letter from you to the ATF.
Will - Owner of Arisaka LLC - http://www.arisakadefense.com
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12 August 2017, 09:19 #19
Really interested in the definitive answer; my understanding is once you have an SBR lower, it can host any pistol upper, as long as it can be returned to it's registered configuration. Is this incorrect?
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12 August 2017, 09:21 #20
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12 August 2017, 09:33 #21
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12 August 2017, 09:56 #22
I don't know the answer but most likely the ATF is arbitrary AF on a lot of things and this issue is probably no different.
Ask 10 ATF agents and you will get 4 or 5 various answers at least.
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12 August 2017, 10:22 #23
Exactly, there are probably a few dozen determination letters that all contradict each other.
The way it's written, if you make a permanent change, they suggest you send a notification letter. I am of the opinion that a permanent change would be disassembling or selling the original upper, and not having another with the same barrel length.
I have half a dozen sbr lowers that were submitted with different barrel length and oal, and swap uppers all the time. There should be nothing to worry about.Will - Owner of Arisaka LLC - http://www.arisakadefense.com
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12 August 2017, 11:08 #24
What I was getting at is that it has nothing to do with what's the shortest barrel. That's a common internet misconception. It's based off of what the initial ("permanent") configuration was. With the AR platform, that's always where the confusion comes, since it's so configurable.
As Will said, you can put as many uppers on the lower once it's SBR'ed, regardless of how "small" the barrel length was when taxed, but technically (which of course is different than what may be done in practice) if you sell/destroy the original upper (ie, original configuration), you have to notify the ATF of the change.
So if he is taxed on a lower stating 7.5, but never buys a 7.5" and buys a 10.5", then that's technically a permanent change. And again, as Will said, you just have to send off a letter.
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12 August 2017, 11:31 #25
Thanks for the clarification.
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12 August 2017, 14:09 #26
BTW: if anybody writes the ATF seeking a "clarification" and fucks the whole thing up like some dope did with arm braces, we should drive to their house and beat them senseless with their own arm, ripped from their rshoulder joint!
And yes, I know they reversed their decision, but stupid questions just beg for that shit!There's no "Team" in F**K YOU!
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12 August 2017, 20:35 #27
Cause options....
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12 August 2017, 21:26 #29
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13 August 2017, 14:08 #30