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2 January 2018, 08:07 #16
Like you, I grew up on Star Wars and loved it. But I also enjoyed the prequels. Yes, there were some missteps, and I'd argue a big part of that was casting the lead. But at the end of the day, it was still Star Wars and by the end of the trilogy, you got to see all the things and meet the people that you had heard about in 4-6.
My issue with these new movies (the trilogy, not the independent movies like Rogue One) is that is suffers from not having a point of reference. Sure, we know who the original characters are, but why is EVERYTHING ELSE happening? Apparently the Rebellion and New Republic failed since now the New Order is a thing. Fine. But at least tell us some info on HOW or WHY it failed. Don't just plop us down in the middle of two factions fighting each other with one faction having some all-powerful being that we don't even know who he is (and potentially don't care as the story develops).
The exact opposite was true with Rogue One, IMO. Again, there's a couple of plot holes, but overall, you know who everyone was (big picture, not necessarily individual characters), and you knew not only what the point of the story was, but also what the stakes were if either side failed.
GOD Forbid a REBOOT.
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2 January 2018, 09:04 #17
Curious what all didn't you like about it? Granted maybe it's because I'm not a "nerd" as you put it; but Episode VII did spark a passionate interest (not that I wasn't interested in Star Wars before; more so prior to Episode VII my knowledge of Star Wars only extended so far as the movies themselves) in the Star Wars universe for me (... so call me a ametuer nerd/nerd in training).
You aren't wrong there. A movie EVERY year? ...
Granted this is mostly a hypothesis, but from my limited research, I think these questions are being set up for Episode IX.
In regards to "who is Snoke" - I think that question is largely suppose to be answered in Episode IX (... at least according to some videos like this)
I think a big difference with this trilogy (as compared to the ones prior), is that this one relies much more on additional media to tell the full story. From what I've seen a decent chunk of the information that is not answered in the movies, is answered in alternate media (ie: comics, books/novels, visual dictionaries, etc) - which, to me, I thought was pretty cool. The fact that the depth of knowledge needed extends beyond the movies themselves ... but on the flipside, to those who don't know or don't care to find out on their own screws them over. Double-edged sword really.
Perhaps someone can answer this for me. What's the point of having canon, and not canon (ie: Rogue One, Han Solo, etc)?Last edited by Thompson; 2 January 2018 at 09:15.
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2 January 2018, 09:38 #18
Once Disney got ahold of the franchise you just knew it was over. Over-marketed crap to begin with at that point and then acquired for such an insane amount of money you just knew Star Wars everything was just moments away.
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2 January 2018, 10:08 #19
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2 January 2018, 12:13 #20
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Perhaps someone can answer this for me. What's the point of having canon, and not canon (ie: Rogue One, Han Solo, etc)?
Rebels actually became something much more than I ever anticipated. This last season has been weak, but the previous ones were well done and even some closure on some of the Clone Wars story lines. But it needs to end, if for no other reason to kill Ezra and his annoying whining.
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