I finally got Discreet Carry Concepts to make me these clips, which are without a wing. I've been using the prototypes for a few months and its a very good setup. I am very happy with the overall quality and how they are a snag-less design, which means you'll save your fingers and hands from being cut up by the lips. There is also no signature. I'll be posting more as I go, just wanted to let ya'll know they dropped today.