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29 January 2020, 12:57 #16LEO / MIL
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Holosun didn’t send you a 509.......you mad bro?
BTW you aren’t above the crowd you appear to be crusading against.
Just a few off the top of my head....
Telling people that they must have/need a special purpose designed AIWB to carry AIWB and then subsequently pedaling your super awesome personally designed belt is convenient. Regardless of the relationship, your “real world” supporting evidence is anecdotal at best.
Same thing with your flashlight data. Seriously.....this super all the hotness light saved me from shooting a subject. GTFO
What you provide is really no different than everyone else who reviews product.....your perspective and your experience whether it tends to be biased or not. Instead you have seemingly become self absorbed and think that you and you alone are THE foremost authority on all things reviewed by Voodoo which is nothing more than a way to crank out content to increase your visibility on the interwebs.
Honestly, did you become more pompous after the first patch they made of your avatar or the second?
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29 January 2020, 13:11 #17
It's common courtesy to quote the person you're responding to.
Since you're being honest, do continue to just go completely off topic and ad hominem your way into a weak position.
The fact you took the time to dredge things up from other issues tells me you've got some personal issues you've wanted to flex about, please continue, maybe in 3rd grade I pushed you on the recess field?
Here's one for you, since you clearly have an issue with yourself, the inflection you put into what you read is based off your bias, nothing else. Makes you mad, I assume, since I'm living rent free in your head.
Nothing you've posting in your weak tyriad above has disproven anything I've ever posted, but again, please, take anything I have posted on the above mentioned topics and write out a logical opposition article to.
I'll be eager to read it.
Edit: just to add, if you want to follow me from forum to forum trolling, do yourself a favor and quit while you're ahead.
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29 January 2020, 13:23 #18
You seem to be the only one who continues to bring up "the industry." Again, not who I'm referring to. You have repeatedly stated that your policing experience is superior to others. You have posted things that I've found helpful and have found I agree with as it applies to my (non-LE) use. But you lose me when you assume you know more than everyone else, including those doing (presumably) the same job you do.
As I've always said, if there is something people disagree with me on, please come out and meet me on the range, meet me for a ride-along, and I'll show you how it works in the real world. While no one has yet taken my offer for a ride-along, there have quite a few people who have had their opinions changed upon showing and explaining certain concepts face to face.
Those who understand how and why dots are supposed to be used in the real world immediately accept the fact that the smallest possible, clearest, and most crisp dot, is the only way to go. There is no in-between. Most instructors who claim to be dot instructors or whatever, don't understand how the real world works and they teach a gaming application to reality - which is a logical fallacy.
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29 January 2020, 13:38 #19
Quote me please where I have stated my policing experience is superior to others, in fact, I've gone out of my way to state that mostly all LEOs have similar experiences. As I've stated, my depts policies don't allow me to post videos of myself, I can post text and photo posts of stuff until I'm blue in the face as a private citizen but I cannot post myself, every dept is different. What I have always posted is that I have very specific experience related to the topics I talk about, notice how I don't talk about long distance shooting? Don't have a lot of experience in that field and my opinions aren't worth shit. Funny how consistency seems to work there? The "industry" is the reason a lot of issues exist, if this doesn't make sense to you, then you need to keep track of the inconsistencies.
Ride alongs are a great way to have first hand experience with what I do on a daily basis. I'm all about it. You should go for one with your local PD on a Friday/sat night in the summer first.
The issue at contention here is that because my experience and my opinions clearly differ from others, especially those who are accepted as celebs in "the industry" that I must be wrong. That's so logically inconsistent I don't need to go any further in explaining it.
Quote me showing where I am passing judgment on anyone for their particular need. In fact, I go out of my way to advise people on what they need and what works in their particular applications.
Training grenades? Ever done an active shooter opfor FoF drill with swat teams and homeland? Probably not, they work really well for that and other purposes as training aids for situational awareness.
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29 January 2020, 14:59 #20Quote me please where I have stated my policing experience is superior to others,
Being a good shooter =\= understanding how a firearm is employed in the real world / EDC carry situations.
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I'll throttle back, as bickering on the internet isn't going to be productive at the end of the day. Just understand that you're seeing multiple posts as a result of your online attitude (which I completely understand may not actually be your real persona). Choose to observe that or don't, but it's not like it's only one person making the observation.
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29 January 2020, 15:37 #21
On phone so I won't be quoting each thing.
My response to tact was the way it was because he's a troll, he knows hes a troll, we know he's a troll, he's got nothing of worth to add and that's his issue, not mine.
First group of quotes doesn't show me anything I'm asking for, I don't know what you're trying to get at, but it isn't immediately obvious with what I asked you to quote me saying and what you actually quoted.
I'm not missing the point when the point is that if the same "industry" people all started pissing on the holosun and I was for it, this would be the same conversation, do you follow?
The EDC flashlight conversation was the way it was because people don't want to spend money on things. Then those same people want to have an emotionally significant confirmation of their purchase. Again, all I did was share my personal experience, which I could easily not do at all, and that'll make sure no one gets that content, because you definitely won't get it from the "industry" types.
Your .50 to hand grenades comparison is literally that. I have never made any statement that my experience is the be all end all, if I did please quote me on it. Call me out each time because I want to own that type of thing. You did, however, make my point for me. I don't talk about .50's because I've got nearly no experience with them in an LE application. See the consistency?
Again, I don't care what people think. No one here is going to tell me what I experienced first hand, repeatedly at times, is false. Just like no one would for anything anyone else posts (unless they are actually lying and are being called out). Also, again, I'll point out the fact that since it's impossible to determine inflection of tone via typed texted without actually hearing the person speaking on the topic, I'll point out again that you are injecting your own personal bias. Prove me wrong.
Beyond all this, I could just not post anything at all, and everyone will not even hear there's another side to the conversation. Maybe circle jerking is something some people are into, I'm not. I'm into providing information that is ethical as it applies to equipment and training. People wanna call me out on it? It's to their detriment, not mine.
Forums are dying anyway, only reason I'm even here and posting content in this way is because I know stick and uwone, plenty of other forums out there I don't reply to anything on and just AstroTurf.
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29 January 2020, 17:22 #22
I enjoy your contributions here and to the firearms community. I read most of your articles.
However, you came in to this thread hot.
The video literally says, a first look. There's nothing wrong with providing a quick overview of a new product. Maybe you didn't get anything out of it and that's fine, but why in your first line response say Holosun didn't send it to people for a legit review?
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29 January 2020, 17:45 #23Originally Posted by voodooman
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