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14 July 2009, 20:02 #1
Questions about suppressors with SBR's
I am sorry if I am asking a question that has been asked many times before. I have been considering adding a suppressor to my carbine because I like the idea of not having my eardrums ringing like mad in a self-defense situation. However, I am not real big on having that extra length added to the gun. I am not much of a real distance or target shooter, I really just need the gun to be accurate enough for close quarter, which brings me to my questions.
I know there is a standard barrel length a gun has to meet in order to NOT be considered an SBR, and that is 16" with a fixed flash device, correct? If you go with a thread-on, permanently fixed can, such as the Ranger 2 from AAC, can you go with a shorter barrel and use the silencer to make that legal limit and avoid paying the extra taxes for SBR's? If so, does anyone know what is the minimum length barrel I could go with in order to hit that limit with the aforementioned can? I would also like to still use my Omega Rail 7.0 with this barrel, so I need the carbine length gas system. If this won't work, and just the installation of the short barrels is enough to force the stamp issue, I assume I would have to pay twice, once for the SBR and once for the suppressor, correct? What else do I need to consider here? Also, about how many rounds can you expect a can from AAC to last before it needs replacement? and will I have to pay that tax all over again if I buy a new suppressor if and when that happens? I know that was a bunch of stuff, and I greatly appreciate any info anyone can give. Thanks.
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14 July 2009, 20:55 #2
Creeky,
The general rule of thumb has always been to go with the SBR and can, not to try to skip the SBR. There are plenty of times when I go shooting that I don't use a can (even though I'm got a few of them).
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15 July 2009, 01:55 #3
Let me see if I can't help with a few of these ...
I know there is a standard barrel length a gun has to meet in order to NOT be considered an SBR, and that is 16" with a fixed flash device, correct?
Examples:
16" (or longer) barrel with or without a flash suppressor = OK
14.5" barrel with a non-removable 1.5" flash suppressor that reaches an overall length of 16" = OK
14.5" (or less) barrel with or without a flash suppressor, or with a 1.5" flash suppressor that can readily be unscrewed/removed = NOT OK
If you go with a thread-on, permanently fixed can, such as the Ranger 2 from AAC, can you go with a shorter barrel and use the silencer to make that legal limit and avoid paying the extra taxes for SBR's?
If so, does anyone know what is the minimum length barrel I could go with in order to hit that limit with the aforementioned can?
... I assume I would have to pay twice, once for the SBR and once for the suppressor, correct?
What else do I need to consider here? Also, about how many rounds can you expect a can from AAC to last before it needs replacement? and will I have to pay that tax all over again if I buy a new suppressor if and when that happens?
The bottom line here is this: in trying to save yourself an extra $200 tax stamp, you are probably going to put yourself through about $1,000 worth of inconvenience and aggravation. It is a far easier -- and better -- thing to just pay up front to give yourself as many long-term options as possible.
ACStand your ground; don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here. -- Captain John Parker, Lexington, 1775.
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15 July 2009, 17:34 #4
thanks for the info, AC. You were a big help :)