Glock 19, Sig Sauer 226 Navy, Sig P2022 and H&K P30

[WileyCoyote]

I am in the market for a 9mm and cant decide which of these to get? These are the models I have narrowed my decisions down too. I currently own a G23, Springfield XDM .40 and a Ruger LCR. My friend just purchased a G19 and loves it. And I see that a lot of guys here in this forum love them too which sways me towards the G19. I do not like my G23 it just doesnt shoot well for my liking. Too much recoil. But I like Glocks.

The Sig Sauer 226 Navy edition has caught my eye mainly because I've never owned a Sig and it looks and feels good to me.

Sig P2022 I hear good things about but never have held or fired one.

H&K P30 looks and feels great. However, I hear the trigger is horrible.

My buddy works for Border Patrol and they issued him a H&K P2000 and he loves it. So I am really confused and undecided what to buy for my first 9mm.

Thanks

[seanmunger]

I have a sig 226R in .40 and I love it. I have 3000+ rounds through it in the year I have had it. it shows some wear but I have never had a malfunction. it runs smooth feels great shoots straight and is reliable. it defintaly gets my vote.

[GoG-Man]

Get the 19, add some Quality metal sights, a few extra mags, a Quality holster for the weapon and magazines.

Invest the rest of your money on Ammo and training

[CCK]

Get the 19, add some Quality metal sights, a few extra mags, a Quality holster for the weapon and magazines.

Invest the rest of your money on Ammo and training

DING DING DING! We have a winner.

Glock 19 $500 new

Raven Concealment holster $70.
Raven Concealment mag carrier $30

Night sites (not because they are important, just because the factory plastic suck) $100

10 Glock 17 mags ( yes 17 mags) for training only $300

Total $1000

Now spend the rest on ammo and training, I guarantee you can't anywhere close to this with any other setup.

Chris

[WileyCoyote]

DING DING DING! We have a winner.

Glock 19 $500 new

Raven Concealment holster $70.
Raven Concealment mag carrier $30

Night sites (not because they are important, just because the factory plastic suck) $100

10 Glock 17 mags ( yes 17 mags) for training only $300

Total $1000

Now spend the rest on ammo and training, I guarantee you can't anywhere close to this with any other setup.

Chris

Why the 17 mags? Where can I go to get training? Thanks

[WileyCoyote]

DING DING DING! We have a winner.

Glock 19 $500 new

Raven Concealment holster $70.
Raven Concealment mag carrier $30

Night sites (not because they are important, just because the factory plastic suck) $100

10 Glock 17 mags ( yes 17 mags) for training only $300

Total $1000

Now spend the rest on ammo and training, I guarantee you can't anywhere close to this with any other setup.

Chris

Which Raven holster? The Phantom LC or Phantom? They are pricey. I just bought a Serpa but I dont think I will keep it and I like the Safariland IWB leather holster.

[CCK]

Why the 17 mags? Where can I go to get training? Thanks

I like training with 17 mags simply because I have a 17 and 19 and my spare mag is always a 17. So regardless of which gun I am shooting I will always be reloading a 17.

Training:
There are quite a few very well respected instructors on m4carbine.net. In fact there is a whole subforum dedicated to it.

I personally am a fan of Gabe Suarez and Suarez International. I'd love to go to a Pat Rogers class or Magpul Dynamics or Larry Vickers or Todd Green from pistoltraining.com

Chris

[CCK]

Which Raven holster? The Phantom LC or Phantom? They are pricey. I just bought a Serpa but I dont think I will keep it and I like the Safariland IWB leather holster.

Suarez doesn't allow Serpas in his classes. I have a Raven Concealment Ghost holster and think the quality is superb. I was quoting the price on a Phantom though.


Chris

[GoG-Man]

Which Raven holster? The Phantom LC or Phantom? They are pricey. I just bought a Serpa but I dont think I will keep it and I like the Safariland IWB leather holster.

I use the Phantom for a Glock 19. I use one at work OWB, and then use another with the IWB loops to carry a Glock 26. They are not cheap, and there will be a little wait, but it is worth it.


If you need something quick or cheaper, you can get a simple belt mounted kydex holster by Blackhawk (NON-Serpa), Bladetech, Comptac, ect. I would still have a Raven on order :-)

As for the magazines, I would recommend you use 19 mags for 19, and 17 Mags for the 17. I have heard a few people have damaged their Glocks by over inserting a larger magazine. YMMV

* I would recommend you stick with Kydex, for various reasons.

As for training, Gabe is a good source, I took his Adv. Close Range Gun Fighting, money and time well spent. If you can, I would also recommend getting some training from some of the well known former Tier1 SF guys, as well.

[MILEO440]

well I'm not going to be much help in your decsion but I have spent many a thousand rounds behind a p226 and p229 in 9mm as well as .40, absolutely love them. in fact I trust my life to a sig every day. I have a buddie that has a G19 and I have put close to 1000rds through it my self and LOVE that weapon. I would buy one in a second if I had the extra cash but I got this little bug right now related the AR accessories that is eating my spare change. HK's seem to be really nice weapons but the only 9mm that I have any experience is about 50 rounds through a p7 which I loved and behind a HK USP .45acp which is my department issue weapon, would be nice to have but im fine with my sig.

[Stickman]

The Glock 19 is my constant off duty piece, I wouldn't even think of carrying the G23. The Sigs are nice, and I have a P220 that I really enjoy, but for my needs, the G19 is the hands down winner.

[spamsammich]

You should try shooting a S&W M&P 9

[sjohnny]

The only guns you listed that I have shot are the Glock 19 and the SIG 226 (but in .357 SIG, not 9mm). If it's going to be a carry gun I would definitely go with the Glock 19. The SIG is bigger and a lot heavier. I carry a SIG 229 and don't like the weight but it shoots well and since it's the only gun I can carry at work (stupid policy change) I've been shooting it a lot more so my proficiency is increasing. If you already have a Glock 23 and are comfortable with it but just want a 9mm instead then it seems the Glock 19 would be a good choice for you. I really like my Glock 23 and if I were in the market for a 9mm the Glock 19 would be what I would get. I have not shot but have held a P30 and it felt absolutely perfect in my hand but I can get 2 Glocks for what they wanted for the P30 so.....

Only you can decide for sure what you want and all the guns you listed are good choices. I would get the Glock (or the P30 if I just had to spend that much money).

[tac40]

For a CCW or off duty carry for LEO types, any of the pistols you mentioned are good selections. The bottom line is cost. The Sig 9mm line is very good, P228 or 226, the plastic Sig 250 are good with interchangeable features to another caliber.

I looked at the HK P30, very nice similar to the HK45 line. Very nice feel but at the higher end of cost. As for the Glock, it's my duty gun and needless to say it works well. The G19 is a favorite among those who carry CCW or LEO.
You can work this gun hard and it can take it. I carry both the Sig and Glock lines off duty. Good luck.

[WileyCoyote]

The Glock 19 is my constant off duty piece, I wouldn't even think of carrying the G23. The Sigs are nice, and I have a P220 that I really enjoy, but for my needs, the G19 is the hands down winner.

I want a G19 but I want to wait for the RTF that I hear is coming at the end of the year. Why wouldnt you even think of carrying a G23??? I just put Mepro nightsights on it and a 3.5 pound trigger. Its really nice now!

Thanks for your feedback