Problem with BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle

**Aragorn** · 10 February 2010, 20:19

Has anyone on here had problems with a BCM Gunfughter Charging Handle not clearing their stocks? Specifically a UBR stock? Me and a buddy each ordered one of the gunfighters, and we're each using UBR stocks. Problem is NEITHER of the charging handles clears EITHER of our UBR's. They go back that little tiny distance over the lower reciever where the charging handles then make contact with the UBR's, and they stop. Tried using a regular charging handle and it worked exactly how it should on both accounts, so we know it's the gunfighters.

Thoughts?

**Optimus Prime** · 10 February 2010, 20:59

Works fine with an ACS stock... no experience with the UBRs though.

**SDDuc996** · 10 February 2010, 23:01

I'm sure some CAREFUL dremeling would fix her up.

**rebelEMPIRE** · 11 February 2010, 02:50

I own a BCM medium sized Gunfighter charging handle and UBR stock. The two make contact, but it's not enough to impede anything. If I tilt the charging handle up slightly there is no contact. Perhaps it's the lower receiver you are using? My receivers are from Tactical Innovations. I doubt it's the receivers though.

Maybe a question to ask which might get more response is: Does anyone with a UBR stock have trouble cycling their charging handle (getting it to clear the UBR stock)?

-rebelEMPIRE

**federalist22** · 11 February 2010, 04:59

No issues for the Gunfighter on my CTR, MOE, PRS, or ACS, but I do not own a UBR. Wish I had more to offer on your issue, but for what it's worth the other Magpul stock lines work fine. I would be interested to know more about the UBR issue.

**gotm4** · 11 February 2010, 05:04

Both of the above rifles have Gunfighters and Magpul UBRs. No interference whatsoever. I don't have a recent pic of it but my 6.8 has a Gunfigher and UBR as well, not a problem there either.

**niner** · 11 February 2010, 11:01

I have a UBR and a Medium Gunfighter and have never seen any contact between the two.

**Stickman** · 11 February 2010, 11:03

Originally Posted by Aragorn

Has anyone on here had problems with a BCM Gunfughter Charging Handle not clearing their stocks? Specifically a UBR stock? Me and a buddy each ordered one of the gunfighters, and we're each using UBR stocks. Problem is NEITHER of the charging handles clears EITHER of our UBR's. They go back that little tiny distance over the lower reciever where the charging handles then make contact with the UBR's, and they stop. Tried using a regular charging handle and it worked exactly how it should on both accounts, so we know it's the gunfighters.

Thoughts?

Can you take a picture to show the interference point?

**Aragorn** · 11 February 2010, 22:04

Well I discovered what the problem was. Today I had the chance to install the BCM Gunfighter in a Noveske upper. Problem solved right there. Apparently the charging handle channel on my Black Rain Ordnance Upper is slightly shallow/low, because it fit the Noveske upper perfectly. I'll see if I can get a picture up of the interference soon anyways.

**Aragorn** · 12 February 2010, 23:13

Well, I reinstalled the gunfighter on the Black Rain Ordnance upper to take some pictures, and now everything fits as it should. No idea what changed, I didn't do anything different. I used a different lower, but it had already cleared the other one so I don't know how that would have changed anything.

**SDDuc996** · 12 February 2010, 23:37

I have a PRI that won't fit on a Mega lower. The ears on the bottom of the CH hang down too low and hang up on the lower receiver at the top of the receiver extension.

Glad you got your problem figured out. Just make sure it repeatedly/reliably works.

I handled this guy's M4 last week that had a strap with a fastex for a sling, secured on the receiver extension. Almost everytime I went to charge the weapon, the CH was getting caught on that stupid strap.

Dumb.

**scumhunter** · 13 February 2010, 02:13

Originally Posted by gotm4

Both of the above rifles have Gunfighters and Magpul UBRs. No interference whatsoever. I don't have a recent pic of it but my 6.8 has a Gunfigher and UBR as well, not a problem there either.

gotm4 has got some gooood lookin' m4s! I want to get a low profile gas block and put a longer rail on mine. It's not a practical upgrade for me but I just really like the look. How long / what brand of rails do you have on them? I've got my eye on the new Troy rail system.

**gotm4** · 13 February 2010, 06:59

Originally Posted by scumhunter

gotm4 has got some gooood lookin' m4s! I want to get a low profile gas block and put a longer rail on mine. It's not a practical upgrade for me but I just really like the look. How long / what brand of rails do you have on them? I've got my eye on the new Troy rail system.

Those are Daniel Defense 14" Lite Rails. The stainless one has a low pro VLTOR gas block that I pinned and the one with the chrome lined BCM barrel has a shaved FSB. Both are 16" midlength barrels.

**JustMatt** · 13 February 2010, 09:57

Glad you got your Gunfighter problem worked out. I'm using mine on a SLR15 lower with a Vltor upper and have no issues with my UBR.

**Stickman** · 13 February 2010, 10:51

Originally Posted by Aragorn

Well I discovered what the problem was. Today I had the chance to install the BCM Gunfighter in a Noveske upper. Problem solved right there. Apparently the charging handle channel on my Black Rain Ordnance Upper is slightly shallow/low, because it fit the Noveske upper perfectly. I'll see if I can get a picture up of the interference soon anyways.

You aren't the first person to see something like this happen. Good to know the CH is GTG, sorry to hear the upper is lacking.

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