AR Virgin Needs Direction

[willardcw4]

I think you're on the right track for sure... however,

Two comments:

Getting a 1:7 twist barrel means that you won't want to shoot any bullets lighter than 55 grain... I shoot 68 grain hornadies, but 55 or 62 grain bullets would be fine.

Free floating hand guards often cost a lot more money than non-free floating ones... and at least for me, my accuracy isn't good enough (yet) to where if I install a free-floating rail, I'll be able to notice a difference. I'm running the Magpul MOE hand guard, and it's perfect, for me :) You can buy little rail add-ons for like $10 a piece and attach any lights, etc. you want on it.

[5pins]

I have shot bullets as low as 45gr in a 1/7 with no problems. You’re going to have a hard time getting under a thousand with a rail. And don’t forget you are going to need sights.

[Big Willy]

A million Thank you's to all who have provided info and support!

I just jumped into the AR pool! Here is the starting order:

Qty Description Unit Amount
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(1 ) Daniel Defense M16 Bolt Carrier Group
$129.00 $129.00
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(1 ) Daniel Defense Stripped Lower
$126.00 $126.00
Additional Shipping ($8.00)
LPK is LMT Full LPK $152.00 $152.00
Receiver Extension is GR Tactical 6 Position Mil-Spec $34.00 $34.00
Castle Nut is Colt $10.00 $10.00
Receiver Plate is Daniel Defense QD Receiver Plate (no swivel) $37.00 $37.00
Buffer Springs is GR Tactical SS $5.00 $5.00
Buffers is H Buffer $16.00 $16.00
Rear Grips is Magpul MOE Black $19.00 $19.00
Stocks is Magpul CTR BLK $90.00 $90.00
Trigger Guards is Magpul MOE Black $8.00 $8.00
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Subtotal: $626.00
Processing/Handling: $15.00
Total: $641.00

Hope I made the right choice! Thoughts and comments welcome!

Big Willy

[5pins]

Good start. Now what upper?

[rob_s]

yep, looks like a good start for sure.

[Big Willy]

Thanks for the replies guys!

Wow Rob… good to see I’m not the only early riser!

I’m struggling on the Upper Assembly. I need to learn more before I jump on that. Things like what is the difference between Government, Mid Length, Carbine… advantages & disadvantages of them.

I’m leaning toward the 1:7 twist unless I get talked out of it. I also am leaning toward the 16” M4 Flat Top chrome lined barrel.
A floating front hand guard is also one of my “like to have’s”.

So many of the upper’s I think I want are out of stock. I’m hoping I can find something in a reasonable amount of time!

Big Willy

[rob_s]

Wow Rob… good to see I’m not the only early riser!

Up by 5 nearly 8 days a week.

[Big Willy]

Ok! I’m looking for an M4 Carbine Upper Assembly and struggling on finding something in stock.

I think I have found one but I need the input of someone much more knowledgeable than I on the topic.

Please give this a view and let me know your thoughts on:

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/LMT-1...2016%20urg.htm

• The product for quality and function
• How it will work with the parts listed in the earlier e-mail? Is it a good mix?
• Is this a good buy? Cash is tight!
• Any other suggestions?

Thank you in advance to all for your time and input!

If it looks good I’m going to buy ASAP as it is in stock.

Big Willy

P. S.

This is a great website! Stickman – you must have a million hours into this site. Thanks!

[5pins]

LMT is a good upper but I think that the BCM’s are better and cheaper. You can also get them with a mid-length gas system.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-1...urg-mid-16.htm

[Big Willy]

5pins,

Thank you for the 411!

Tell me more about the "Mid-Length". How does it differ from the Carbine barrel? Advantages? Disadvantages?

Thank you for your time and info!

Big Willy

[willardcw4]

LMT is a good upper but I think that the BCM’s are better and cheaper. You can also get them with a mid-length gas system.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-1...urg-mid-16.htm

I don't necessarily agree that BCM is better than the LMT I got that exact LMT upper and it has been phenomenal... ya ya.. BCM is good too:)

For your first time buy, I'd probably go with a BCM 16" LE upper...

[5pins]

The advantages of the mid-length system is that it is generally considered to be softer shooting and more reliable. It also allows you to reach farther forward with your support hand. There is nothing wrong with the LMT I had one for a short time and it worked fine. However with the BCM you get
1. Tapered front sight pins. LMT uses strait pins.
2. Parkerizing under the FSB.
3. High pressure test and magnetically inspected barrel.

[rob_s]

As I posted on the previous page, the BCM 16" mid-length light-weight is the upper I would buy. It's not in stock right this second but if you sign up for the email notification they should be in stock again soon.

"Mid-length" means the gas system is approximately 2" longer than the standard "carbine-length" gas system. There is a great explanation of what all that means here.

I GREATLY prefer the "light weight" or so called "pencil" barrels to the M4 or the government profile. The standard BCM mid-length is a government profile which means it is thin under the handguards and then thicker from the front sight base forward. The M4 barrel profile (like the one you posted) is similar except that it has the notch cut into the barrel forward of the front sight base to allow the attachment of the M203 grenade launcher for the military. As you can imagine this makes little sense for non-military users. The lightweight profile barrel with the thinner profile consistently all the way from one end to the other makes the most sense for the vast majority of users.

[5pins]

If I were buying one I would get a light weight also. Grant has some in stock.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ategory%3DBCOM

[Big Willy]

Thanks guys!

Got the 16" Mid-length and a BCM model 4 changing handle ordered up.

Hand Guard and Sight and I should be close to done!

Big Willy