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    What Next? (yes, another build!)

    So, I had a spare LPK sitting in my gun cabinet from a friend of mine and I just happened to find myself with a Spikes Tactical lower in my hand as I walked out of the gun show a week ago... This leaves me with a conundrum. What do I build next?

    I am thinking a dedicated target rifle in 5.56 or maybe a dedicated .22 rifle.

    Ideas? Suggestions?

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    I am planning out a lightweight build as I type this.

    You should build something that you will actually shoot, and something that you can afford the ammo for.

    If you don't already own a .22LR, it's a great choice for training without burning up your ammo stash and bank account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR-10 View Post
    I am planning out a lightweight build as I type this.

    You should build something that you will actually shoot, and something that you can afford the ammo for.

    If you don't already own a .22LR, it's a great choice for training without burning up your ammo stash and bank account.
    Yeah, a .22lr would be great for plinking and having fun but I know I can always get myself a dedicated upper down the line.

    As for a lightweight KISS build... i am very very interested in doing that.


    Ideas for that would be:

    OD Cavarms furniture kit (a1 length buttstock)
    Magpul MIAD
    Magpul rear BUIS
    Pencil Barrel (14.5" with pinned FSC556)
    BCM BCG
    Flat Top Upper w/ M4 Feedramps
    Magpul BAD

    Plus the Spikes Lower with RRA LPK I already have (might send FCG for trigger work)


    Just a nice and simple (and not too expensive) rifle that is gtg for any situation

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    If you had a dedicated 22 upper and a regular 556 upper that would be a great all around weapon. One question, why pin the comp?
    Boom! That just happened.

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    If he pins a long enough muzzle device to his 14.5" barrel, he will not be in possession of an SBR. The FSC556 is definitely long enough.

    Also, I believe some states require it to be pinned, even if it isn't a short-barrel.

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    Lightweight is the new "flat dark earth" (which was the new black). :D

    Seriously, of manufacturers starting to pay attention to the weight of things more and more, and with more and more shooters attending training and having to, you know, carry their guns, lightweight carbines are increasing in popularity.

    But christ, if I build a new gun every time I had a lower or an LPK just sitting around...

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    I've wanted a lightweight carbine for a while, just never got around to building one.

    I will never own an M203 so a barrel with an M4 profile isn't really necessary unless I'm building a clone.

    Pencil barrels make more sense, for my needs anyway.

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    How about a Mk12 Mod1?

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    Ok I think I have decided what I want to do...

    I want it to be a KISS SHTF carbine.

    Something like and maneuverable. Not sure if I want to go with an entry stock but an A1 length might be short enough.

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    Ok so here is a preliminary build list:

    Cavalry Arms Rifle Stock (a1 length)
    Brownells a1 stock completion kit
    Ergo Right hand Suregrip
    Magpul BAD
    Magpul Trigger Guard
    Spikes M4LE Complete Upper
    FSC556 or other Comp (miculek or spikes?)
    Magpul MBUIS or A2 Carry handle

    Spikes Lower + RRA LPK

    Once I get the upper and comp I'll send those out to have the barrel chopped down and the comp pinned for 16" overall length. I don't think a reprofile of the barrel is necessary/worthwhile as I don't think it will save much over the m4 profile.

    Depending on how I like the Ergo grip I may switch it over to my other AR and run a MIAD on this carbine.

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    Something else worth mentioning....

    I always buy or assemble guns to fit a perceived need. In some cases I have projects in my head that are waiting for the right products to be introduced. The lightweight is definitely one of those cases for me. The new barrels, the Troy Extreme rails, the Baer non-FA upper I just ordered... all these things are relatively new on the market.

    I say all that to say this, which is that I always find these projects to make themselves known, and the decisions to decide themselves, because I have an end-use in mind and anytime I'm thinking of two products it's an easy decision to figure out which one is best because I just have to figure out which one best suits the purpose.

    For your new gun, you might consider the DD A1.5 fixed rear sight. I also applaud your use of the flattop upper instead of an A2 or A1 as it will give you more flexibility down the road.
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    Emilio has been bitten and the AR-fever is spreading through him...nothing wrong with that.

    Dude, I would stay away from an A1 stock, you would probably get disgusted by it later, however lightweight it doesn't make up for it in ugliness and more importantly lack of versatility. If LOP is a concern, check the Magpul PRS (heavy - A2 buffer/tube) or the Magpul UBR (a little heavy - carbine buffer/tube) if you don't want a traditional carbine stock. If weight is a concern, go Magpul MOE (carbine buffer/tube)--probably one of the lightest quality and functional stocks out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by federalist22 View Post
    Emilio has been bitten and the AR-fever is spreading through him...nothing wrong with that.

    Dude, I would stay away from an A1 stock, you would probably get disgusted by it later, however lightweight it doesn't make up for it in ugliness and more importantly lack of versatility. If LOP is a concern, check the Magpul PRS (heavy - A2 buffer/tube) or the Magpul UBR (a little heavy - carbine buffer/tube) if you don't want a traditional carbine stock. If weight is a concern, go Magpul MOE (carbine buffer/tube)--probably one of the lightest quality and functional stocks out there.
    I am considering the A1 cause its simple but I'd also consider another ARFX stock or similar fixed stock. I'm in NY and we still have an AWB so no collapsable stocks for me.

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    How is an A1 stock "ugly"? it's not like he's talking about installing milsurp stock with numbers stenciled on the side (although those are pretty cool!). He said he's going to use a Cav A1-length stock, which I see nothing wrong with. I would choose that over the ACE all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by federalist22 View Post
    Emilio has been bitten and the AR-fever is spreading through him...nothing wrong with that.

    Dude, I would stay away from an A1 stock, you would probably get disgusted by it later, however lightweight it doesn't make up for it in ugliness and more importantly lack of versatility. If LOP is a concern, check the Magpul PRS (heavy - A2 buffer/tube) or the Magpul UBR (a little heavy - carbine buffer/tube) if you don't want a traditional carbine stock. If weight is a concern, go Magpul MOE (carbine buffer/tube)--probably one of the lightest quality and functional stocks out there.
    I would also like to know how an A1 stock is ugly. I don't see how the lack of versatility is a problem if the stock fits him and his shooting style. You don't need infinite LOP adjustments or cheek riser with an AR. A carbine stock would be a better choice on a lightweight rifle though.
    Dustin

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