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29 September 2010, 14:54 #1
Something new is coming..... updated - 300 AAC BLACKOUT New Caliber, New Mission?
No updates or info yet... I'll update as soon as I can. I can say that I have one sitting in front of me, but thats it right now.
Update, I've known about this for awhile, and had an obligation to post it on Military Times first for a few kind of obvious reasons.
AAC/ Remington has released a new caliber. Its not an off the wall oddball, it appears to be a highly legit round (7.62x35) with a flexible delivery package. The caliber is only a part of the offering, the complete upper receiver, ammunition, and special suppressor round everything out.
Here were the Design Objectives for the project:
Create a reliable compact 30-cal solution for the AR platform
Utilize existing inventory magazines while retaining their full capacity
Create the optimal platform for sound and flash suppressed fire
Create compatible supersonic ammo that matches 7.62x39 ballistics
Provide the ability to penetrate barriers with high-mass projectiles
Provide all capabilities in a lightweight, durable, low recoiling package
Here is the intro information taken off their new website
Introducing the Advanced Armament Corp. 300 AAC BLACKOUT (300BLK). This system was developed to launch 30 caliber projectiles from the AR platform without a reduction in magazine capacity and compatible with the standard bolt. Full power 123 grain ammunition matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, has 37% more energy than 5.56mm M855, and 9% more than 6.8 SPC TAP 110. In fact, from a 9 inch barrel, the 300BLK has more muzzle energy than 5.56mm M855 from a 16 inch barrel. When 300 BLK is used in a 16 inch barrel, it has 23% more energy than 5.56mm M855 from a 16 inch barrel - with much higher-mass projectiles for a more dramatic effect on the target. Or choose subsonic cartridges for optimal use with a sound suppressor - 220 grain Sierra OTM (open-tip match) bullets vastly outperforms a 9mm MP5-SD in penetration and long range accuracy. Due to the high efficiency of the cartridge, less powder is used than 5.56mm, which results in a rifle that is a comfortable to shoot - even with a short barrel.
MILITARY TIMES - 300 AAC BLACKOUT New Caliber, New Mission?
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29 September 2010, 16:05 #2Member
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tease
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29 September 2010, 17:12 #3
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29 September 2010, 16:47 #4
"Something new is coming.....
Started by Stickman, Today 13:54"
My checkbook knows how this ends. Not well.S/F
"There is no greater calling than to defend the life of a fellow Marine" - LtCol McClane, USMC
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29 September 2010, 17:06 #5
OK, its been a few hours. Spill the beans.
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29 September 2010, 19:11 #6
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29 September 2010, 19:44 #7
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29 September 2010, 20:58 #8
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29 September 2010, 19:49 #9
...Wow...
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-"The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." ~ Michael Althsuler
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29 September 2010, 19:50 #10
Consider me highly intrigued.
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29 September 2010, 19:50 #11Member
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I thought the 300 Whisper did all that? What's the effective range of this round? If it gets past 200 yards I might need to switch builds :)
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30 September 2010, 10:01 #12
Small companies or individuals inventing calibers is far different than the Freedom Group, which has everything from ammunition to accessories, to complete weapon manufacturing capabilities. The SAAMI angle simply smothers the wildcats.
Think of you and I deciding to build and sell kit cars, versus Ford introducing a new car. We might build something nice, but we can't compete.
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It's a SAAMI version of the fairly popular wildcat 300/221 or 300 Fireball and the proprietary 300 Whisper(R).
There is a good customer base for ammo of people who own the above (after a gunsmith checks the chamber vs the SAAMI print) and currently handload as well as a good number of people who know of and want one but do not handload. There are already several smaller companies making the wildcat, once the ammo is available there is no good reason to keep making the wildcat.
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30 September 2010, 05:31 #14
I'd like to see the round, next to know rounds (5.56, 7.62x39, 6.8 SPC, 7.62 NATO) and hear about ammo cost.
IMHO on the commercial market unless there is $0.20-0.25/round ammo available it's a niche thing at best. Intellectually interesting but otherwise...WWW.TACTICALYELLOWVISOR.NET
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30 September 2010, 06:23 #15