View Poll Results: What are your thoughts on Muzzle Brakes?
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Still don't ike them.
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My opinion about them is changing.
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I prefer to use muzzle brakes.
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Thread: Muzzle Brakes the new IN thing?
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4 September 2010, 07:50 #1
Muzzle Brakes the new IN thing?
I remember up until a couple of months ago, guys used to trash muzzle brakes as being obnoxious and some some guys even indicated that they would not allow them at their range or even want to be an RO at matches for guys using them. Living in NJ, I have always had to have muzzle brakes on my personal ARs. I think I have tried every single one out there from the PRI QC, AK style, JP Tac Comp, Izzy brake, FSC556 and FSC30. I understand the negatives about the muzzle brakes such as the noise/side blast and added flash, but I always thought the advantages that the muzzle brakes provide such as the muzzle flip/recovery time was a huge advantage.
For me, when the FSC556 came out, that really started to change the perception of the muzzle brakes because you get the benefits of a muzzle brake and while they are still a little louder than most flash hiders, they are not as obnoxious as other muzzle brakes. And now with the BattleComp and the KAC Brake, they are even better.
Is anyone else looking at muzzle brakes differently, or is it just a FAD?
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4 September 2010, 08:05 #2
I've always liked and collected muzzle devices, some brakes are just obnoxious, but fun if you want to blast your shooting buddy's baseball cap off. I have and use them, sure they do tame the muzzle climb, but everything has a cost. When it really counts, it's a flash suppressor for me, I can do something about muzzle climb but not too much about reducing the muzzle signature without a good flash suppressor.
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With new MB's hitting the market and if the prices could come down a bit that would make me more inclined to purchase one. At this time I beleive my first choice would be the BattleComp
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4 September 2010, 11:19 #5
I still won't SO people with them if there's a way for me not to. The exceptions being the Triple Tap and the Battlecomp.
I do think it's a fad to some extent, and it's due in part to a shifting of who the industry celebrities are and what they are using.
I still wouldn't put one on my home defense gun, or a gun I intend to use indoors. The TT and BC may change that, but the FS556 most certainly would not. My HD gun wears a can, however, so the muzzle device is immaterial.
So I can't really answer your poll, as all three are true for me.
As an SO I Still don't like them
In combination with other developments My opinion about them is changing.
As a competitor and provided they are of the right design I prefer to use muzzle brakes.Last edited by rob_s; 4 September 2010 at 11:24.
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4 September 2010, 11:28 #6
I will also add this, which is sure to annoy some people....
There are still more brakes sold to people looking to buy skill than there are to people who can actually take advantage of whatever improvement they may add. They're right up there with aftermarket triggers in this regard. To be sure, I have some shooters that can run the shit out of their guns and the brakes help them do it, but for every one of them I have another 10 or 20 that may have a brake on the end of their barrel but still need to be timed using a sundial they are so damn slow. One of the hands down best shooters we ever had, and best shooters I've ever seen, ran a stock DPMS with a Trijicon Reflex sight on it and a stock Glock 19. He was so good that if he showed up the contest was for second place. AND he was left-handed so he was at a disadvantage in manipulations.
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5 September 2010, 10:22 #7
Here in California, options are a little different. Those with pre-ban, post-ban and after- ban-whatever that means AR style rifles with various flash hiders and muzzle breaks, the private shooter and some in the LEO community uses muzzle breaks because the laws on the books are sometimes confusing. California has the "OLL", off list lower, which kinda allows you to have a pre-ban configuration but with a bullet button which locks a 10 rd magazine in place. The muzzle break is not a fad but part of a means to satisfy the needs of the state law. I see lots of weekend shooters with muzzle breaks and yes what a pain, I've seen a post ban Colt AR with no muzzle break or flas hider, very loud indeed. Having used the Rainier Arms muzzle break and currently the Battle comp, these are good examples of means to a need, demand and fix to shooters in states with restrictive gun laws.
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17 September 2010, 16:21 #8
The generation of Comps that are coming onto the market have a different goal than those of 5 years ago. I hate to use the word "Tactical", but these newer variants are giving up some of their comp abilities to kill flash, and some of them are able to do it without the horrendous side blast that we see from most open sided comps.
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I just don't like the blast, at all.
My suppressed SBR's shoot soft (Switchblock or small gas port) AND are pleasant to shoot.
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I'm working on a muzzle brake review right now. Hoping for it to be done by mid November but I am waiting on one final brake from Knight's before I do a final round of testing. At the present, I run a PWS FSC on my guns. But the brakes I have in the line up are:
-Troy Industries: Medieval and Claymore
-Primary Weapons System FSC 556
-Rainier Arms Xtreme Tactical Comp
-Battle Comp 1.0
-Knight's Armament Triple Tap
-Standard A2 birdcage
Very excited to get all this info in one place as I think it will be a good look at everything from a simple A2 cage and up. Like I said, hoping for about mid November but it depends on a parts arrival date. If it comes down to it being past that due to production dates I may just 2 part series the whole article.كافر - Infidel
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5 October 2010, 18:20 #12
Looks like we are working on similar projects.
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5 October 2010, 19:50 #13
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كافر - Infidel
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5 October 2010, 20:17 #15
Are you going to be reviewing them on a 16" barrel? If so, I'll go the route of the shorty, that way we aren't duplicating things.