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15 August 2007, 15:48 #1
H buffer
Is it really necessary for my carbine length system?
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15 August 2007, 16:04 #2
It depends on what you do, what your expectations are for the weapon, and ammo that you shoot.
If the sole purpose of the weapon system is to shoot slow fire on a static range, it probably isn't something that will ever make a difference or be noticed. While there are threads that cover the technical aspects of why it delays BCG movement and smooths the gas pulse, the more important thing for me (IMHO) is that an increase in reliability, smoother firing sequence, and allowance for follow up shots is a win-win scenario in my book.
Its also probably worth pointing out that the difference gained is not massive, and many people don't shoot enough to feel the change between a standard and "H" buffer. I know guys who can't feel the difference when I drop in the H3 or 9mm buffer, but thats due to their lack of familiarity with the weapon system in my eyes. Someone dialed in to their weapon feels it pretty quick, and I don't know anyone who hasn't liked the switch.
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16 August 2007, 13:46 #3
Ok, so slowing down the cycling increases the reliability. Good to know.
My primary use is plinking, HD, and any potential SHTF scenario.
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16 August 2007, 20:50 #4Distinguished Member
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I definitely noticed a difference in perceived recoil with the addition of “H” buffers in my M4gery and my HD carbine.
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19 August 2007, 15:34 #5
I put an H buffer in my M4 and it noticeably slowed my operation down. It smoothed it out and made the cycle not as sharp, especially with the hotter loads.
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20 August 2007, 16:25 #6riverider4741 Guest
The Endine Hydraulic Buffer
I bought the Endine Hydraulic Buffer I read a good write up about it in the G&A Handbook of the AR. Found it at Brownells if I don't like it you can return anything there no questions asked
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/sto...-15+AR-RESTOR?
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16 August 2007, 14:28 #7
Slowing down the cycle can be good, but you wouldn't want to go over board. Going with a super heavy buffer, along with an increased power buffer spring can cause problems when shooting lighter/ weaker ammo.
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17 September 2007, 20:43 #8
In terms of increasing the reliablity, and also the longevity of parts, is there any way to know if you should go with an H2 or H3 over the standard H buffer? I run a 6920, the buffer and spring are just as they came from the factory...is there a better combo?
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18 September 2007, 08:36 #9
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18 September 2007, 17:36 #10
"Better" is a relative term. While there are a lot of things you could do to alter the recoil impulse, you would be affecting overall reliability. In the same manner that you can tune a race car, you can tune your AR15/ M16. Just like a race car doesn't like regular fuel, its very possible to tune your AR so that it gets picky over what it likes...
I doubt the H2 buffer would hurt it any, but you could see issues with lower powered .223 loads.
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18 September 2007, 18:19 #11
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19 September 2007, 06:39 #12
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30 October 2007, 06:50 #13Marlow Guest
I put a h-buffer in my P.O.F. and I believe it improved my ability to get back on target quickly. It also made the rifle more comfortable to fire.. Granted, a 5.56 isn't a mule to begin with, but if it can be more comfortable, why not make the change... I would also guess that it would improve the service life of the bolt carrier.
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25 November 2007, 16:04 #14
My experience is that the H Buffer takes the recoil from a slap (and a girly slap at that) to a slow thud. No big deal really when you are running regular loads though your machine. If you go with suppressors and fancy ammo or other mods then it may have a more tangible benefit as to reliability, control, etc. I got it just to try it with regular loads and I like the thud instead of the slap so I'm keeping it in. As has been said by more sage persons than I above--be careful about what you modify or you can turn a marevelously reliable machine into a big question mark.
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17 January 2008, 22:16 #15english kanigit Guest
Sorry to hijack...
Whilst on the thought of reducing recoil impulse does anyone have thoughts on running a -16 bolt carrier in their gun? Would it offer any distinct differences versus a H Buffer? In conjunction with?
I've been wondering about doing this on my carbine.
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