Well, I got the "Any guns in home?" question.

[Pyzik]

Today was the first time I've taken the little one to the doc for her immunizations.

About the fourth question in about her came the "Any weapons in the home?".
I told him it was not a relevant question and it was none of his business.

He went on with "well it's not relevant now, but when she starts to crawl we want to make sure any guns are locked up... and we just want to document..."
I just said well that's not going to get answered.

Called the wife after and she was equally appalled at the invasion and said that if she's asked next time she'll give them a similar answer.

We were already considering looking for a new doc and this just might be the time, though I am sure the "all" ask now.

The doc was clearly offended that I wouldn't answer him too. He got somewhat short for the remainder of the visit.

[FortTom]

Instead of looking for another doctor, I believe i'd be looking for another state to live in. In, what I call, the "slave states", these things don't go away, they just get worse.
I understand that jobs, family's and just a whole plethora of things, dictate, to some degree, where we live. But states like NY and CA just went nearly bankrupt, and there was a mass exodus of taxpayer's to fund their left wing drivel. People got sick of the socialist policies, and working people got sick of being broke, paying the taxes to pay off other's mortgages, etc. Same with guns. But, the same politicians are still running those states, so they've proven they'll play the fiddle while Rome burns, if you know what I mean.

So, as far as gun laws in MI, new doc or not, that cat's out of the bag, and there'll be no turning back now. It's only just going to get more and more invasive, it's an agenda, and one that the left has plenty of support for by the voter's in MI.

I don't mean to sound curt, but it's just something you'll have to learn to live with, or leave. That's just reality. I do hope for the best for you though, and wish there was something that I could do to help you out.

Take Care
FT

[Pyzik]

Instead of looking for another doctor, I believe i'd be looking for another state to live in. In, what I call, the "slave states", these things don't go away, they just get worse.
I understand that jobs, family's and just a whole plethora of things, dictate, to some degree, where we live. But states like NY and CA just went nearly bankrupt, and there was a mass exodus of taxpayer's to fund their left wing drivel. People got sick of the socialist policies, and working people got sick of being broke, paying the taxes to pay off other's mortgages, etc. Same with guns. But, the same politicians are still running those states, so they've proven they'll play the fiddle while Rome burns, if you know what I mean.

So, as far as gun laws in MI, new doc or not, that cat's out of the bag, and there'll be no turning back now. It's only just going to get more and more invasive, it's an agenda, and one that the left has plenty of support for by the voter's in MI.

I don't mean to sound curt, but it's just something you'll have to learn to live with, or leave. That's just reality. I do hope for the best for you though, and wish there was something that I could do to help you out.

Take Care
FT

You're not being curt, sometimes the truth hurts. I've HATED our handgun registration anyway.

We've talked about it, actually. Most of our friends have moved out of state (Alaska, North Carolina [x2], Indiana and Kansas).

We originally decided that we should stick around to be close to family, but mine being over an hour away we seldom make it there and her's has proven to be... unreliable.
Perhaps it's time to reevaluate things again. I'm looking for a new job as it is and she is a manager at big bank so she can transfer.

[FortTom]

Well, I'm glad that you, at least, have options. A lot of people, and some I know, are pretty much stuck where they're at, for job, financial, and other reasons.

Good luck to you,

FT

[MoxyDave]

Moving away only serves to eliminate the opposition. Be politically active. Contact your representatives. I know it's a huge time suck and it's no fun but if everyone keeps ignoring the problems they will continue to grow.

[Pyzik]

Moving away only serves to eliminate the opposition. Be politically active. Contact your representatives. I know it's a huge time suck and it's no fun but if everyone keeps ignoring the problems they will continue to grow.

I am politically active and frequently email/write/call my reps (who are blue and don't care) and reps from other counties/districts what ARE voting the way I'd like and thanking them.
It is a time drain and often is frustrating.

EDIT: As a reference I just read this nauseatingly liberal article on "The Affordable Care Act" and firearms, if anyone else wants to submit themselves to the torture.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolynm...is-in-the-law/

[Calico Jack]

I would have just said no. Saying I am not going to answer that leads some to believe the answer is yes.

[FortTom]

Moving away only serves to eliminate the opposition. Be politically active. Contact your representatives. I know it's a huge time suck and it's no fun but if everyone keeps ignoring the problems they will continue to grow.

MD, when it comes to these kinds of gun laws, especially when the tentacles of those who impose them, begin to use them to invade other area's of our lives, sometimes folks do have to "cut and run". You can call, write, visit and otherwise communicate with your elected officials all you want, but if they overwhelmingly have the vote of the "anti-masses" such as states like CA, you're only satisfying your own self.

Case in point, if you lived in San Fransisco would you honestly be achieving anything by dumping boxes of mail to Nancy Pelosi? She doesn't have to do anything to win an election there, but file the proper paperwork. She doesn't need a conservative's vote. She'll be a U.S. Rep, until she decides not too. And she definitely doesn't give a big harry rat's rear end about 2A rights being trampled on. Boxer and Feinstein pretty much rule by decree, the rest of the state.

My point is, most of the power in these "slave states" is concentrated in 2 or 3 cities, and a guy like Pyzik might as well pee in the wind, although he might feel some sort of vindication by standing up to an vastly greater "army" of voters who re-elect these liberal fools.

Even the best and bravest soldiers know that sometimes it's better to retreat and fight another day. That's all i'm trying to say.

FT

[GOST]

I personally don't even like telling my wife where all the guns are at, afraid she might use one on me. I had my wife interview the girls pediatrician before a started using his office. In my opinion I would have probably told him yes and lots, and not let it show that it bothers you. The liberals like to portray conservatives as not being educated and rash. Moments like yours they will say the lunatic father keeps firearms accessible by kids, and not only should kids not be allowed at his house but they shouldn't allow him to have kids. Remember that the liberals are not very tolerant of our views and that we have to be smarter than them if we're gonna win back America.

[GOST]

Now saying all that I would have probably done the same thing you did. The only thing I like being asked is what I want to eat.

[Judicator]

I live in MA everything is registered here. Gotta love this place, but my kids doc asks too. We just answer yes. I ain't that concerned about it. State knows I have them anyways.


Sent from my IPhone, please ignore spelling mistakes. Siri is dumb.

[browcs]

Intrusive questions like that make the uber-sarcastic New Yorker in me come out and want to ask things like, "I'll answer that doc, but first answer this for me: how many times have you been sued for medical malpractice? Do you drink alcohol? How often? Why am I asking you this? Because I don't want my child to be seen by someone who may have had a drink or two during lunch today. Oh, by the way, is your marriage stable? Why are you offended by that question doc, after all would you want to have your child attended to by someone possibly distracted with marital strife? Still want to ask me whether I own guns?"

....in other words doc, I'll mind my business if you mind yours.

[Computalotapus]

Intrusive questions like that make the uber-sarcastic New Yorker in me come out and want to ask things like, "I'll answer that doc, but first answer this for me: how many times have you been sued for medical malpractice? Do you drink alcohol? How often? Why am I asking you this? Because I don't want my child to be seen by someone who may have had a drink or two during lunch today. Oh, by the way, is your marriage stable? Why are you offended by that question doc, after all would you want to have your child attended to by someone possibly distracted with marital strife? Still want to ask me whether I own guns?"

....in other words doc, I'll mind my business if you mind yours.

I would not like to be on the other side of your interrogation table haha

[FortTom]

Intrusive questions like that make the uber-sarcastic New Yorker in me come out and want to ask things like, "I'll answer that doc, but first answer this for me: how many times have you been sued for medical malpractice? Do you drink alcohol? How often? Why am I asking you this? Because I don't want my child to be seen by someone who may have had a drink or two during lunch today. Oh, by the way, is your marriage stable? Why are you offended by that question doc, after all would you want to have your child attended to by someone possibly distracted with marital strife? Still want to ask me whether I own guns?"

....in other words doc, I'll mind my business if you mind yours.

Much more intelligent than anything that I would have come up with...I'd just see red and fight off the urge to choke the living crap out of him...

[Wolverine]

I never got that question living in Michigan but the last time people talked about it on MGO, I think it was said it's some sort of anti-gun Doctors group that make up the generic forms.