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    1-4x or magnifier?

    So now that I've got this pistol (almost) completed I am looking at just tossing the PA micro onto it and upgrading my carbine to something with some magnification.

    I've been looking at the PA 1-4x vs adding a magnifier to a red dot.

    Just looking for some opinions and experience of some of you.
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    Definitely go 1-4. Magnifiers as far as I'm concerned all pretty much suck, and usually cost a lot.

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    My experience with magnifiers has been very mixed as well. I'm no expert but I can spot a piece of #### in no time.

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    That's what I've been reading as far as magnafiers as well as heavy.
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    So far I've only used a magnifier to assist with zeroing a red dot.
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    1-4x or magnifier?

    PA 1-6 if you can find one

    Eta: in stock at primary arms and aim surplus. If you have the extra scratch after Christmas, their 1-6 is a worthy upgrade over the 1-4, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride4frnt View Post
    PA 1-6 if you can find one
    Yeah... I've been watching videos on that one.

    I'll have to wait to pick that one up. Though it's the better option. I just hate having to wait.

    EDIT: I really don't have the cash right now. Maybe if it were to go on a sale that I just couldn't pass up.
    My logical side is telling me to just wait and get the 1-6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWone77 View Post
    Definitely go 1-4. Magnifiers as far as I'm concerned all pretty much suck, and usually cost a lot.
    My sentiments also, even expensive magnifiers. Get everything in one package, and it should be lighter and one less thing to worry about going wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOST View Post
    So far I've only used a magnifier to assist with zeroing a red dot.
    Are you sure you're looking through the right end, GOST?
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    Well, after wasting nearly an entire work day reading and watching videos between the two I now have changed my mind between 1-4x and 1-6x. :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWone77 View Post
    Definitely go 1-4. Magnifiers as far as I'm concerned all pretty much suck, and usually cost a lot.
    I agree. I didn't like a magnifier at all. I bought my Accutron 1-4 and I couldn't be happier.

    If quickly changing from 1-4x is a concern, look at the MGM Switchview.

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    Totally depends on what you are looking to do.

    Id go with a good 1-4x.

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    I will throw this into the mix... I currently have a relatively inexpensive ($200 something bucks) 1-4x on my 16" AR.... If I really try I can keep it within an inch at 100 yards with that optic with off the shelf ammo. I have no doubt I could hit a lot farther out given the chance. I will find a longer place to shoot soon and give it a go. That said, from your initial post you said you are building a pistol.

    My question would be, are you really going to try and shoot beyond 100 yards with that set up? Are you really going to try and go for groups? I personally am tempted to get more magnification on my next optic merely because I like the whole precision shooting thing. But with a pistol if you are going to be engaging within 100 yards or less 1-4X is plenty, especially if you are not trying to get dime sized groups. If your targets are 18" or so then 1-4 is a great choice and anything more, while nice, is overkill if you ask me.

    If your goal is to have a blaster of some sort where precision accuracy isn't really 'as important' then I would save my money and stick with the 1-4x. But that's just my opinion not knowing what your setup is and what your goal is for shooting or what you will be shooting at.

    http://www.bushnell.com/tactical/rif...throw-down-pcl

    That is what I use on my AR and the design of it is quite interesting for a tactical setup if you ask me. It's a first focal plane so on the low end its a red dot (or acts like one).... and on the high end you have the reticle as shown in the link. The inside edge of that horse shoe covers 18" at 100 yards....great for fast acquisition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alamo5000 View Post
    I will throw this into the mix... I currently have a relatively inexpensive ($200 something bucks) 1-4x on my 16" AR.... If I really try I can keep it within an inch at 100 yards with that optic with off the shelf ammo. I have no doubt I could hit a lot farther out given the chance. I will find a longer place to shoot soon and give it a go. That said, from your initial post you said you are building a pistol.

    My question would be, are you really going to try and shoot beyond 100 yards with that set up? Are you really going to try and go for groups? I personally am tempted to get more magnification on my next optic merely because I like the whole precision shooting thing. But with a pistol if you are going to be engaging within 100 yards or less 1-4X is plenty, especially if you are not trying to get dime sized groups. If your targets are 18" or so then 1-4 is a great choice and anything more, while nice, is overkill if you ask me.

    If your goal is to have a blaster of some sort where precision accuracy isn't really 'as important' then I would save my money and stick with the 1-4x. But that's just my opinion not knowing what your setup is and what your goal is for shooting or what you will be shooting at.

    http://www.bushnell.com/tactical/rif...throw-down-pcl

    That is what I use on my AR and the design of it is quite interesting for a tactical setup if you ask me. It's a first focal plane so on the low end its a red dot (or acts like one).... and on the high end you have the reticle as shown in the link. The inside edge of that horse shoe covers 18" at 100 yards....great for fast acquisition.
    He's putting the red dot off his carbine on the pistol and the scope on the carbine.

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