New Vortex scope-1-6x24 Strike Eagle

[mustangfreek]

Was just cruising Vortex's site and seen they are coming out with a new 1-6 scope around summer time, called the strike eagle.

Link to vortex page and description http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...ar-bdc-reticle

30mm tube
CR2032 battery
SFP - AR-BDC reticle
MSRP of $429 on vortex's site, so street price should be a little lower id imagine

[BoilerUp]

The resemblance to the PA 1-6x24 is uncanny

[GOST]

The resemblance to the PA 1-6x24 is uncanny

They do look very similar, I wonder if Vortex makes the PA?

[Slippers]

The resemblance to the PA 1-6x24 is uncanny

It's almost cerainly the same scope, made in the same factory, with just different branding.

[JHoward]

I'm going to end up pulling the trigger on one of these 1-6's soon.... Gotta have more magnification.

[alamo5000]

I am quietly eyeballing scopes. This one is a possibility.

[Peckerinak]

Was gonna go buy the Viper PST 1-4x tomorrow, might have to put it off awhile.

[gatordev]

But it's yet another BDC reticule on a SFP scope. The BDC will only work at one point of the pretty wide range of mag (same with PA). I just don't really understand why these are a thing, other than the cost being much less than a FFP.

Check that. I can see how these are great for a static plinking rifle (which can be plenty of fun), but otherwise...

[Ordnance]

But it's yet another BDC reticule on a SFP scope. The BDC will only work at one point of the pretty wide range of mag (same with PA). I just don't really understand why these are a thing, other than the cost being much less than a FFP.

Check that. I can see how these are great for a static plinking rifle (which can be plenty of fun), but otherwise...

Almost no one is doing a FFP in anything less than a 1-8x or 10x unfortunately. Even then on a 1-6 when I see most guys running them even in the Razor HDs and the S&Bs they're on max magnification anyways. The reason a lot of glass companies are going with BDCs in even the cheaper brands are because most people buying them want it because they think it's cool when in reality 9 out of 10 will never shoot them farther than 100-200yds lol.

[gatordev]

Almost no one is doing a FFP in anything less than a 1-8x or 10x unfortunately. Even then on a 1-6 when I see most guys running them even in the Razor HDs and the S&Bs they're on max magnification anyways. The reason a lot of glass companies are going with BDCs in even the cheaper brands are because most people buying them want it because they think it's cool when in reality 9 out of 10 will never shoot them farther than 100-200yds lol.

Yeah, I hear you. Just seems silly when you have a variable optic. I know I'm preaching to the choir. One reason why I've been eying the SWFA 1-4 and 1-6 models is because they have a standard mil reticule (so I can build my own drops on any rifle/caliber) and because it's FFP, which makes the variable-ness useful. But as rob_s has pointed out, they're all very heavy.

[Ordnance]

Yeah, I hear you. Just seems silly when you have a variable optic. I know I'm preaching to the choir. One reason why I've been eying the SWFA 1-4 and 1-6 models is because they have a standard mil reticule (so I can build my own drops on any rifle/caliber) and because it's FFP, which makes the variable-ness useful. But as rob_s has pointed out, they're all very heavy.

I don't like BDCs because I think they're a joke unless you're shooting the exact load, in the exact conditions, with the exact same platform it was developed for. You're definitely on the right track developing your own dope and using the reticle as such. As for heaviness I'll say the same thing to you that I say to everyone to be fair... Go work out, lol! The better glass is always going to be on the heavier side, but with it comes all the advantages. I also like a heavier rifle if I'm going to be doing more precision distance shooting. The weight reduces recoil which improves tracking, and it helps create more stability for positional shooting.

[rob_s]

As for heaviness I'll say the same thing to you that I say to everyone to be fair... Go work out, lol!

and I'll say the same thing to you that I say to everyone that spouts that nonsense...

Heavier is heavier! nobody in their right mind is choosing a heavier item over a lighter one when the lighter one works just as well. No matter the strength of the person, you can carry X weight for Y time, and as X increases, Y decreases. That's just a plain fact. More weight leads to quicker fatigue whether you're Lou Ferigno or Ed Grimley.

[gatordev]

Trying to keep this on track without wading into the pissing match...

I don't like BDCs because I think they're a joke unless you're shooting the exact load, in the exact conditions, with the exact same platform it was developed for. You're definitely on the right track developing your own dope and using the reticle as such. As for heaviness I'll say the same thing to you that I say to everyone to be fair... Go work out, lol! The better glass is always going to be on the heavier side, but with it comes all the advantages. I also like a heavier rifle if I'm going to be doing more precision distance shooting. The weight reduces recoil which improves tracking, and it helps create more stability for positional shooting.

Meh. If I'm shooting with a variable optic that goes down to 1x (or nearly 1x), I'm probably running the gun in a more dynamic way (with no one shooting back at me) rather than positional precision shooting. I'm not saying that's how everyone should run it, just how I'd probably be doing it. So having something that is heavy doesn't make as much sense. Everything I've read about the SWFA 1-6 seems like it's one sweet scope and is pretty much what I've been looking for, except it's heavier than an Elcan (!), which is also variable and has clear glass (albeit a more expensive). Just stuff I've been putting my personal equation for future purchases. That's also why I'm thinking about the 1-4 as the best compromise.

As for BDC vs. mil, overall, I think we're on the same page, but for me I think it's more valuable when switching between calibers (to me) than worrying about loads. Whether it's at 5000' DA or sea level, once re-zeroed, I find that M193 and some flavor of MK262 still are only about .1 or .2 mil off from one another in practical terms out to 400m from a good barrel. Start bringing wind into the picture and I find I'm more of the problem than the various load differences.

[voodoo_man]

wow that's cheap...

[Ride4frnt]

You wanna know what the difference is in the PA and this? Vortex's awesome warranty and customer service. I've heard PA has good CS, but the 3 year warranty on their 1-6 is no match for vortex's no bullshit lifetime warranty.

I love my PA for the price I paid, but had this been out at the time, I'd have pulled the trigger on an extra hundred bucks to get the warranty and care that I've come to know from vortex.