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    Cryptic Coatings BCG 10K rounds Review

    Last month I was involved with a 10,000 round endurance test by a local rifle mfg (NDA prevents me from disclosing their information at this time), and my rifle as well as one other had the Cryptic Coatings BCG's in the Black Mystic/CVD treatment. My rifle's test was one shot every two seconds for 90 rounds, let barrel cool down to ambient temp, and then wipe down and re-lube with slip2000 every thousand rounds for 10,000 documented rounds. The other rifle with the Cryptic Coatings BCG was a dry test where all parts were degreased prior to testing, and one shot every two seconds for 90 rounds, cool to ambient, for 2,000 documented rounds.

    Here is the BCG from my rifle at the documented 10,000 rounds after a quick blast from gun scrubber and a wipe down. There was almost no wear on the contact points.

    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]

    Here is the BCG from the 2,000 round dry test.

    BEFORE

    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]

    AFTER

    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Cryptic coatings bcg by jprizz237, on Flickr[/IMG]

    Even after 2K rounds caked on most of the carbon literally wiped off with a rag. Now there was more wear marks on the dry test than the 10K lubed test, so even with fancy coatings and treatments lubrication is needed, however the PVD/CVD finish was by far the superior treatment. There was also some NiB bcg's being tested and they showed significantly more wear than the PVD/CVD carries, and clean up was barely improved over the phosphate coated ones. To me NiB is a worthless finish, but the NP3 and PVD/CVD show promise.

    Overall I personally feel that the CVD/PVD process is the most advanced alternative treatment/finish on the market available. Sure the price is more than some of the other offerings but I was flat out amazed at how easy it cleaned up and how slick it is.
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    great pics that is amazing how well it help up to bad you dont have video of you cleaning it
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    Quote Originally Posted by toolboxluis00200 View Post
    great pics that is amazing how well it help up to bad you dont have video of you cleaning it
    I may be going out next month with them again so if I do I'll take more pics and video. It's amazing though, even on the bolt tail you could flake off the carbon with your fingernail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPER 237 View Post
    I may be going out next month with them again so if I do I'll take more pics and video. It's amazing though, even on the bolt tail you could flake off the carbon with your fingernail.
    man that is bad ass right ther
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    Awesome review, photos and testing! Thank you for sharing. Once your Nda ends (hopefully sooner then later) I hope you post a full write up.

    I agree with what you said about regardless of the fancy coating, lubrication is needed or more wear will form. I'm running a nitride BCG without lube/cleaning for my own curiosities, tho now I wish I had two to compare them like you did. Dang what a good post :)

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    Looks good, thanks for the review. Would like to see pics of the bolt tail.
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    Thanks for the write up! I have been looking at the mystic black for a while now but was waiting for some real world reviews to come in. Please keep us posted on any further updates!!

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    Thanks guys. I thought I had some pictures of the bolt and tail but I don't.
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    so what you are saying is that you'd recommend it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo_man View Post
    so what you are saying is that you'd recommend it?
    That is a good question. I haven't been a believer in fancy coatings and treatments as I've always felt a good lubricant like FireClean is all you need. I also rarely clean my rifles and when they get dry I just put on more lube. However ive started to shoot suppressed almost exclusively and those who do shoot suppressed understand how filthy things get fast. So I can see the benefit of the Cryptic Coatings Black Mystic treatment, and I am honestly contemplating a switch from phosphate to the CVD/PVD.
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    Hmmmm

    I sort of want a gold or weird color bcg....

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo_man View Post
    Hmmmm

    I sort of want a gold or weird color bcg....
    CC's mystic bronze is pretty unique.
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    Who makes the BCG? Looks to me like they are selling a $110 bolt for $275 after coating. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPER 237 View Post
    That is a good question. I haven't been a believer in fancy coatings and treatments as I've always felt a good lubricant like FireClean is all you need. I also rarely clean my rifles and when they get dry I just put on more lube. However ive started to shoot suppressed almost exclusively and those who do shoot suppressed understand how filthy things get fast. So I can see the benefit of the Cryptic Coatings Black Mystic treatment, and I am honestly contemplating a switch from phosphate to the CVD/PVD.
    I'm not asking this to be a jerk...honest question:

    You said that NiB was a worthless finish, but what you describe (run the BCG suppressed, wipe away the goop) happens with NiB, as well, assuming you're using the correct lube. Or do you mean because you can do what you did with no lube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SINNER View Post
    Who makes the BCG? Looks to me like they are selling a $110 bolt for $275 after coating. No thanks.
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