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    Quote Originally Posted by gatordev View Post
    I'm not asking this to be a jerk...honest question:

    You said that NiB was a worthless finish, but what you describe (run the BCG suppressed, wipe away the goop) happens with NiB, as well, assuming you're using the correct lube. Or do you mean because you can do what you did with no lube?
    I have the same question.

    I find NiB to be actually pretty decent. It is the end all be all that needs no lube? No, I think that has been overstated, but I do find it easier to clean, and usually just needs a wipe down and more lube. With the costs lately, the price over a phosphate is negligible.

    The Cryptic Coating has my interest piqued, and the price point reminds me of how much Fail Zero charged initially for NiB.

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    If this coating is as thin and durable as it claims, makes you wonder how it would handle as a bore lining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOST View Post
    Toolcraft
    That company was selling NiB coated bolt carrier groups for under $120. I actually have 2 I am 99% sure were Toolcraft. The gas key has so much nickel boron build up in them that the gas tube will not go 1/4" into the key and keeps the bolt from locking into battery. They were sold as Toolcraft BCG's but lack the cage code they currently have on them, the reason I say 99% sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatordev View Post
    I'm not asking this to be a jerk...honest question:

    You said that NiB was a worthless finish, but what you describe (run the BCG suppressed, wipe away the goop) happens with NiB, as well, assuming you're using the correct lube. Or do you mean because you can do what you did with no lube?
    In my experience the Nib isn't that much easier to clean than a phosphate with a good lube, and unlubed its almost the same. I've also experienced a stuck bcg with a fail zero, and in our test Nib also showed much more wear on the contact points. The fact that the CVD treatment was easier to clean with no lube than the Nib with lube to me shows how superior the CVD/PVD process is. Yes it is very expensive but if you want the Ferrari you have to buck up and pay the price, and most of us have no problem dropping $200 on a trigger, $100 on a muzzle device, so what's another $100 for a top quality BCG?

    I'm going out again on Monday and i'll make sure to take a video and more pics to help you guys see how slick this stuff is.
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    Thanks for the reply. I know lube is much like religion (everyone KNOWS theirs is the best), but I've had a similar issue with NiB when suppressed with the "wrong" lube. That's part of why I was asking. I've had a WMD lock up on me with Slip 2k after <200 rounds out of a MK18. With Slip 2K EWL, I've been able to shoot and shoot with the same BCG, so that's partly why I was trying to clarify.

    Looks like an amazing coating, but for now, I'll stick with phosphate or NiB and some "good" lube and direct the extra money towards other toys (like ammo) until the price comes down.

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    I kinda want the titanium one... But damn, $450?
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    Sorry to drag this back up but I was wondering if the OP knew whether Cryptic would coat a customer bolt carrier? If MN changes their suppressor laws, I'm looking at switching over to an LMT Enhanced Carrier in an SBR that would be shot 95% suppressed but would be interested in trying out the coating as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC98 View Post
    Sorry to drag this back up but I was wondering if the OP knew whether Cryptic would coat a customer bolt carrier? If MN changes their suppressor laws, I'm looking at switching over to an LMT Enhanced Carrier in an SBR that would be shot 95% suppressed but would be interested in trying out the coating as well.
    I do not know this information.

    I just completed another 10k round cycle and we used the same two cryptic coatings black mystic bcgs. I'm currently writing up a review and trying to figure out how to upload videos.
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    I looked at the Mystic but what kept me away is that it's just a $100 bcg with an amazing coating. There isn't any other new technology or engineering put into it. Lantac, Sharps, LMT, JP, Salient etc all have custom looking BCGs with fancy coatings. The Mystic coating "may" be better by 1% but they need to tweak the bcg itself to attract more buyers IMO. I dont mind dropping that money on a bcg but i want it to have a different look... but maybe that's just me.

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    So it's 99% looks and 1% finish/coating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tact View Post
    So it's 99% looks and 1% finish/coating?
    That sounds about right...

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    Yeah my dream BCG is the LWRC one piece carrier coated in Mystic Black. Modern Outfitters is carrying them at a lower price if anyone is interested. http://www.shopmodernoutfitters.com/...carbinebcg.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by tact View Post
    So it's 99% looks and 1% finish/coating?
    Yes and no. Im no soldier nor am i trying to play one. Im honest and upfront... I ride a triumph daytona 675R, used to have a regular daytona. The R spec has ohlins (top of the line suspension in bikes) and brembo brakes. Did i need that stuff? Certainly not, but i liked the paint scheme a lot better. I dont brag and try to say Ohhhhh i have the R spec so Ill be .0127% faster on the track than a regular daytona...

    Same goes for the BCG. Im not a solider and this gun is not going to be carried through the sands of the middle east firing thousands of rounds. I wanted a bad asslooking BCG with a good, easy to clean finish. I dont need the finish to be .02% lower coefficient of friction or last 5% longer than a different finish. Lantac gave me that. I do think the mystic coating is slightly better but how much so? Probably like my bike.. just marginally better for the use that i intend to give it so yes, looks carried a little more value to me on this purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopis View Post
    Yes and no. Im no soldier nor am i trying to play one. Im honest and upfront... I ride a triumph daytona 675R, used to have a regular daytona. The R spec has ohlins (top of the line suspension in bikes) and brembo brakes. Did i need that stuff? Certainly not, but i liked the paint scheme a lot better. I dont brag and try to say Ohhhhh i have the R spec so Ill be .0127% faster on the track than a regular daytona...

    Same goes for the BCG. Im not a solider and this gun is not going to be carried through the sands of the middle east firing thousands of rounds. I wanted a bad asslooking BCG with a good, easy to clean finish. I dont need the finish to be .02% lower coefficient of friction or last 5% longer than a different finish. Lantac gave me that. I do think the mystic coating is slightly better but how much so? Probably like my bike.. just marginally better for the use that i intend to give it so yes, looks carried a little more value to me on this purchase.
    So basically what you are saying is that you don't own one, never have used one but still have an opinion on percentages, wear ratio's and a conclusion based on zero experience with the product. Thanks for the nose bleed review

    Viper is actually running one and his opinion(based on facts) is a stark contrast to yours. Looking forward to more updates Viper.

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    Viper,

    Are the Coatings the same despite the color differences, bronze, gold, silver, black, ect? This finish has my interest piqued, but I'm wondering why the black mystic coating costs $40 more than some of the other colors.

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