War Sport Costa Ludus Edition AR-15

[Calico Jack]

What no tactical bungee cord?

[schambers]

Costa Tax.

I remember being shocked by the price and rolling my eyes at the M&P thing he put out a while ago.

Anyaways... Figured I would pipe up in defense of Warsports.

I've been to their factility a few times to pick up stuff that they've worked on for me, and its impressive to say the least.
In the past 12 months they have transitioned to creating a lot of parts in-house, and this definately increases the cost of their overall product. That being said, the attention to detail they put into the R&D and production is on par with Larue and the price of their products reflects that level of precision.

In the case of the LVOA, its a specialized product and the price reflects that fact... although I'm sure 90% of the people who own one don't use it for its intended purpose. If you buy a GP Carbine or LVOA from them, you will definately get what you pay for in terms of fit, finish, quality and utility.

p.s. 7lbs is a pretty standard weight for a carbine.

[GOST]

7 lbs. for a 14.5" barreled rifle may have been standard several years ago. A BCM Recce 14.5" KMR ELW MK2 weighs in at 5.7 lbs, that's the new standard.

I don't feel that people are surprised by the price of this new rifle but rather disappointed. KAC SR-15 E3 MOD 2 have a lot more features than this new rifle and have been going for roughly $2150, $500 cheaper than this Costa.

The reason that I compared War Sport's Costa rifle to the BCM and KAC is that these are the 2 rifles that he is often photographed with in his classes. BCM sponsor more guys than about anybody and are able to keep prices considerably less. They also put Haley's logo on the Jack. But the Jack comes with sights, a $200 gift certificate for training and is $555 cheaper.

I'm sure the guys at War Sport make a great product but this rifle will be compared to the BCM Recce 14.5" KMR ELW MK2. The BCM is 1.3 lbs lighter and roughly $1150 less, it has become the new standard.

[schambers]

7 lbs. for a 14.5" barreled rifle may have been standard several years ago. A BCM Recce 14.5" KMR ELW MK2 weighs in at 5.7 lbs, that's the new standard.

Guess I should have use the word average, instead of standard.

Funny thing is, I considder KAC stuff to be way overpriced.

[SINNER]

Only people who have not owned or used a KAC thinks they are overpriced. Not even getting into the resale value being best in the industry.

[UWone77]

Guess I should have use the word average, instead of standard.

Funny thing is, I considder KAC stuff to be way overpriced.

If you don't use or need the ambi controls on the KAC, some people may consider it overpriced. However, when you take all that and match it up with the match trigger, E3 Bolt, URX Handguards, sights, SOPMOD Stock, it comes out to be a pretty reasonably priced package.

[Liberal_Strong]

I was thinking the same thing, must be that rail system.

Played with it and its all in the barrel. Its some custom profile design by warsport themselves like the ones they have on the lvoa. Hell the lvoa is heavier than the Costa. Something like a hybrid hbar/medcon

[Calico Jack]

Costa Tax.

I remember being shocked by the price and rolling my eyes at the M&P thing he put out a while ago.

Anyaways... Figured I would pipe up in defense of Warsports.

I've been to their factility a few times to pick up stuff that they've worked on for me, and its impressive to say the least.
In the past 12 months they have transitioned to creating a lot of parts in-house, and this definately increases the cost of their overall product. That being said, the attention to detail they put into the R&D and production is on par with Larue and the price of their products reflects that level of precision.

In the case of the LVOA, its a specialized product and the price reflects that fact... although I'm sure 90% of the people who own one don't use it for its intended purpose. If you buy a GP Carbine or LVOA from them, you will definately get what you pay for in terms of fit, finish, quality and utility.

p.s. 7lbs is a pretty standard weight for a carbine.

What's the special purpose of the lvoa?

[SINNER]

What's the special purpose of the lvoa?

Removing 3k from your wallet.

[GOST]

Is the LVOA my wife?

[SINNER]

At least with your wife you have a chance of being kissed first...

[Naytwan]

Is the LVOA my wife?

At least with your wife you have a chance of being kissed first...

You guys almost owed me a new keyboard. Spit my drink out laughing at that.

[schambers]

The 12.5" is an SBR that has very little muzzle rise and does not produce a concusive flash that will blow out NVGs.

[schambers]

What's the special purpose of the lvoa?

The 12.5" is an SBR that has very little muzzle rise and does not produce a concusive flash that will blow out NVGs.

[JGifford]

Costa Tax.

I remember being shocked by the price and rolling my eyes at the M&P thing he put out a while ago.

Anyaways... Figured I would pipe up in defense of Warsports.

I've been to their factility a few times to pick up stuff that they've worked on for me, and its impressive to say the least.
In the past 12 months they have transitioned to creating a lot of parts in-house, and this definately increases the cost of their overall product. That being said, the attention to detail they put into the R&D and production is on par with Larue and the price of their products reflects that level of precision.

In the case of the LVOA, its a specialized product and the price reflects that fact... although I'm sure 90% of the people who own one don't use it for its intended purpose. If you buy a GP Carbine or LVOA from them, you will definately get what you pay for in terms of fit, finish, quality and utility.

p.s. 7lbs is a pretty standard weight for a carbine.

7# is over a half-pound too heavy for a 16" carbine with a 12-14" rail.