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Thread: Forward Controls Design ABC/R
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19 January 2016, 13:29 #91
Can you post a pic of CMT and RA crosshatch serrations? I seem to be having a hard time finding pics of them
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20 January 2016, 03:04 #92
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20 January 2016, 06:09 #93
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20 January 2016, 06:24 #94
Thanks, the ones I can find are either horizontal or vertical serrations.
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1 February 2016, 07:59 #95
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1 February 2016, 08:03 #96
It's a golf ball! :)
Will - Owner of Arisaka LLC - http://www.arisakadefense.com
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1 February 2016, 08:15 #97
We are offering more color and aesthetics options on existing products. EMR-A (ambidextrous) will hopefully make its appearance this year as well. This is an experimental aesthetics option for the ABC/R
Though this looks good, function has to come first, thus the final version might be somewhat different. The dimples must offer equal, if not better traction than the ABC/R's very effective horizontal serrations.
Many excellent patterns and designs already exist. The golf ball wasn't the goal (I don't / can't play golf, it didn't cross my mind), the design ended up looking like the pattern of one. If it works, that's all that matters. It may go through some more changes before it's finalized (deeper and or larger dimples, for instance.)
The ABC/R is a solid design, at its core, it's a duty grade component, a variation in aesthetics won't change that. ABC/R-F will continue to have horizontal serrations, the dimpled version is a no cost option
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27 March 2016, 13:51 #98Member
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Well I bit. Curious how these things enhance BC purchase. Wish I didn't have to pay $8 for RA's shipping!
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27 March 2016, 14:18 #99
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28 March 2016, 11:49 #100
USPS keeps increasing its rates
Please let us know how you like it. Do you run a Norgon or another brand of ambi mag release?
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28 March 2016, 12:10 #101
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28 March 2016, 12:36 #102Member
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Hi Roger, I don't run an ambi. Just looking for a well-designed BC with better purchase on both the hold/release. I recently got a lightweight V7 BC and don't like it. There's not enough material contacting the actual bolt lugs and it takes 2-3x the pressure on the pad to release. Almost requiring a palm-slam to release. If I like the unit, I'll swap out all the rifles with em.
Keep up the great work and keep the parts as light as possible. :)
And yes UPS/USPS have gotten ridiculous. I still ship a lot of small parts First Class with good luck, but I understand the reasons why shops don't like offering FC.Last edited by Brahmzy; 28 March 2016 at 12:45.
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28 March 2016, 15:06 #103
Brahmzy, though I can't prove it, I do believe you and I go way back on ar15.com throughout the years
Forward Controls isn't in lightweight game, though I do appreciate the weight saving. On my MRP, unless I turn down or flute this heavy ass barrel, no amount of LW component is going to move the needle in a meaningful way, but I digress.
On the ABC/R there are two lightening cuts. These are not fashion statements, or attempts to make the ABC/R a LW component. They serve to keep its weight (0.445oz) close to that of a factory bolt catch (0.401oz).
On the EMR (enhanced mag release) and EMR-C (enhanced mag release, competition), there's a similar weight saving measure.
It's attention to detail, everything has a purpose
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28 March 2016, 15:18 #104
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28 March 2016, 15:58 #105
cjd3, the only compromise I can think of is the EMR-A's lever pivots on the receiver, like the Troy and HVA (on which the EMR-A is based, we used the AMR's basic mag catch layout with HVA's provided drawings)
The Forward Controls specific modifications were extensive enough the EMR-A bears little to no resemblance to the AMR. One of the key features is that it can be used with a factory bolt catch without obscuring its lower paddle. The bolt catch's lower paddle being obscured by an ambi mag catch, as you guys may recall, was the whole reason for which the ABC/R was created.
EMR-A has a low profile lever that's happy with third party bolt catches like the ABC/R-F, and factory bolt catches with their tiny boot heel for lower paddles
For a combat or defense AR, receiver marring isn't an issue. It is for those with receivers to which they append investment like values. Hence the EMR-A isn't for everyone, but we're not known for making Gucci type products to begin with.Last edited by Duffy; 28 March 2016 at 16:08.