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Thread: Explain your AR15 layout...
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25 October 2010, 16:59 #301
Well I can't post pictures, but I've made some changes.
1) The round hand guards are gone and the Magpul Mid-length hand guards are in place.
2) The Surefire G2 in the ring is gone, and a Surefire M600C Scout Light is in place. (Same place on the rail.)
The guys at Mont-N-Slot tell me that they have a better mounting solution for the Scout on the MOE, we'll soon see.
I'm still optics poor, but the light change.... what a difference! And the gun has held up very well.
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26 October 2010, 10:20 #302
MGM GTR 001. Build by Wallace
Mega GTR lower
Mega Tactical trigger
Gold selector
A2 Stock
ASA side charger
Young BCG
Saber D, 24" SS 1/8
Leopold L
A pure bench rest tack driver for varmint and range fun.
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26 October 2010, 10:47 #303
I LOVE IT
except the stock
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29 October 2010, 15:03 #304Member
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MY Rifle: Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Something Blue
I hadn’t fired an AR style rifle since 1968 in Vietnam but with the results of the 2008 election felt it was time to get back in the loop and buy one. A friend was in the same boat and bought whatever he could find off the rack which happened to be a Carbon-15 for $1000. As little as I knew I wouldn’t have done any better at the time. Instead, the scarcity of ARs and high prices diverted me to months of research and sorting it all out - not a bad thing. WEVO and other websites really helped me out - thanks!!!
By the summer of 2009 after months of empty shelves at local gun shops and hearing of 9-month backorders I feared that I might not be able to buy an AR so bought a stripped S&W M&P-15 lower that I stumbled across so I’d at least have the controlled part. I also found a Del-Ton LPK and BCM receiver extension/M4 Gen 2 stock kit with H-buffer.
A few months later I bought an ArmaLite 16” midlength upper because of its midlength gas system and 1:9 twist barrel since I knew 99% of the ammo I’d be shooting would be around 55gr. Also a local shop was clearing out this upper at a good price and threw in the $45 gas block sight. (Later I did replace its bolt carrier group with a Daniel Defense M16 BCG to correct deficiencies of the ArmaLite BCG and to have a spare.) No upgrades to the standard handguards as they work well for my application. I just want a basic AR that is reliable.
I bought a used milspec carry handle and replaced the front sight post with a Bushmaster 0.04” taller post to clear up a zeroing problem then got another milspec carry handle and cut it down to expose 4” of top rail for an optic. I dabbled with cheap RDS optics until I found the Bushnell TRS-25 which provides a 1/3 cowitness using YHM risers. This RDS is cheap but I haven’t experienced any problems and could tell immediately if it drifted off zero due to the cowitness. The carry handles are reindexed for IBZ, RIBZ and standard BZ zeros.
Earlier this month I bought an ArmaLite stripped lower and built it up with an ArmaLite single stage LPK and another BCM RE/M4 Gen 2 stock kit. I moved the ArmaLite upper to this lower and plan to buy a BCM 16” LW midlength upper for the M&P-15 lower. I picked up another used milspec carry handle and have cut it down for the rear sight.
The rifle functions very well and I am confident with it. I’m looking forward to finishing the second one during the holidays if possible. Very curious to compare the BCM’s 1:7 twist with 55gr and heavier ammo. This has been a very rewarding experience and I’m much happier with a custom built AR instead of a Bushmaster bought off the rack.
Lower Receiver:
ArmaLite M15 Stripped Lower
ArmaLite Single Stage Lower Parts Kit
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer
Upper Receiver:
ArmaLite U15A4CB Midlength Upper Receiver
Wilson Arms 16” HBAR Barrel (included above)
Daniel Defense M16 Bolt Carrier Group
Sights/Optics/Mounts:
ArmaLite E20151 Railed Gas Block Sight
Colt A4 Cut Carry Handle (Anchor Harvey)
Colt A4 Carry Handle (Cardinal Forge)
Bushmaster 0.04” taller front sight post
Yankee Hill Machine Co. 4”x½” Rail Riser (YHM-9595)
Yankee Hill Machine Co. 1.3”x½” Mini Riser (YHM-226) x2 (to mount a scope)
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 1x25mm Red Dot Sight
Miscellaneous:
CQB Solutions 3-Point Tactical Sling
Colt and other USGI 20/30rd Magazines
MagPul PMAG 20/30rd Magazines
Lower Receiver #2:
Smith&Wesson Model M&P-15 Stripped Lower
Del-Ton Lower Parts Kit
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer
Planned Upper: BCM LW 16” midlength
Here's the complete ArmaLite lower:
Last edited by Quentin; 29 October 2010 at 15:38.
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29 October 2010, 17:18 #305
My 16" BCM mid-length working gun. Updated with MOE handguards, and a Surefire Scout Light on the MI rail.
Same gun showing how the Scout Light and side sling adapter work together.
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30 October 2010, 12:04 #306
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31 October 2010, 19:52 #307
I suppose it is appropriate that on Weapon Evolution, my weapons have evolved. Here again, are my updated take on some of the US military small arms. I didn't want retro replicas of the MK12, Recce, M4 and MK18, instead I wanted a usable modern version for me and mine. It was really important to me to have a common feel, with stocks, grips, and rails and that they all must have an identical cheek weld. I have used and replaced inferior optics, stocks, grips, slings, and these are the items I have used and abused and have confidence in. The capability of an AR15 is determined by the optic and barrel, and these five are examples of the optic and barrel combinations to fulfill a role.
Bravo Company MK12
Bravo Company Manufacturing in house upper - BCM Mk 12 Mod 3X-Bravo (DD14)
BCM 18” SS410 Ion Bond DLC Stainless Steel 1 in 8” twist barrel 5.56 USMC SAM-R chamber A2 Flash Hider
Rifle Length gas system H3 buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 14.0 Lite rail
Leupold MK4 4.5-14x50mm Tactical Milling Reticle Larue SPR QD mount
BCM/Troy back up iron sights
Harris Ultra Light Bipod
Bravo Company Manufacturing lower receiver
LMT 2 stage match trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MOE grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Vickers Combat Applications padded two point sling
This take on the SPR is excellent, the Bravo Company upper is extremely well made and the BCM SS410 Ion Bond barrel is a true sub MOA tack driver, I recently shot two back to back groups at 200 yards that measured less than an inch. It might have a Leupold MK4 3.5-10x40mm in the near future.
Daniel Defense Recce
Daniel Defense in house upper - DD SPR Mid Length Complete Upper Receiver Group
Lothar Walther LW50 Stainless Steel 1 in 7” twist barrel 5.56 Wylde chamber A2 Flash Hider
Mid Length gas system H2 buffer
Daniel Defense hand matched bolt and bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Leupold MK4 1.5-5x20mm Special Purpose Reticle Larue SPR QD mount
Troy back up iron sights
Daniel Defense lower receiver
LMT 2 stage match trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Vickers Combat Applications two point sling
Probably the most versatile AR I own, my modern take on the SEAL Recce rifle is capable of red dot optic speed at close range yet will make good hits out past 600 yards. Doubles as my 3 Gun rifle. The LW50 barrel is sub MOA capable. The SEALs knew what they were doing with the 16" Recce.
Colt General Purpose Carbine
Colt/LMT Upper
Colt 6721 16” Heavy 1 in 9” twist barrel 5.56 NATO chamber A2 Flash Hider Carbine Length gas system with H2 buffer
LMT bolt and bolt carrier group
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
EOTech 552
Troy back up iron sights
Surefire G2 in Viking Tactics mount
Lewis Machine & Tool lower receiver
LMT single stage mil spec trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MOE grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul AFG
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
Blue Force Gear Vicker's Combat Applications sling
This carbine was to be a "beater" high round count, general purpose rifle that I wouldn't mind using for "hard use" shooting with a more flexible twist rate to take advantage of the cheapest ammo that may be available, so I went with a complete upper from a Colt AR6721. Great for a loaner or the new shooter.
Bravo Company M4
Bravo Company Manufacturing in house upper - BCM Standard 14.5" Mid Length
BCM standard 14.5” 1 in 7” twist barrel chrome lined 5.56 NATO chamber PWS FSC556 tactical compensator
Mid Length gas system H2 buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Aimpoint T1 Micro Larue QD mount
BCM/Troy back up iron sights
Magpul MOE vertical fore grip
Bravo Company Manufacturing lower receiver
BCM single stage mil spec trigger
Magpul CTR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Vickers Combat Applications padded two point sling
I discussed this one with Paul Buffoni the owner of Bravo Company it was my desire to put together a light weight, very soft shooting carbine that was simple and rugged for my wife. He led me to the excellent 14.5" barrel mid length gas system upper, with the very effective PWS compensator. This is an amazing fighting carbine, that could replace the 16" barrel mid length as the "sweet spot" in the AR15.
Lewis Machine & Tool MK18
Lewis Machine & Tool custom upper - LMT 10.5" Upper Receiver Assembly
LMT 10.5” 1 in 7” twist barrel chrome lined 5.56 NATO chamber Noveske KX3 flash hider
Carbine Length gas system H buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 10.0 Lite rail
EOTech XPS Larue QD mount
Troy back up iron sights
Surefire X300 weapon light
Magpul Angled fore grip
Lewis Machine & Tool lower receiver
LMT single stage mil spec trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Blue Force Gear UDC padded single point sling
There is just something about a short assault rifle with a red dot and a white light. This is my home defense carbine, 100% reliable and MOA accurate it is extremely fast and easy to make hits from bad breath distances to 300 yards. I see a sound suppressor in it's future.
CameronLast edited by Cameron; 30 November 2010 at 19:01.
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31 October 2010, 22:11 #308
Great stuff Cameron.
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1 November 2010, 21:09 #309
Cameron,
Awesome gear there.
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1 November 2010, 23:16 #310
My wife's rifle is a low budget clone of exactly this.
H1 instead of the larger Aimpoint
VTAC/Surefire V4 light on VLTOR mount instead of the X600
And it wears an EMOD, but is otherwise orthodox church of Magpul.
This layout is really effective, very affordable, and I think epitomizes the post-GWOT capable KISS style rifle the best - A simple lightweight light, a rugged red dot sight, simple BUIS, adjustable 2pt sling, and some MagPul to round it out.S/F
"There is no greater calling than to defend the life of a fellow Marine" - LtCol McClane, USMC
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11 November 2010, 12:00 #311
I'd hate to admit what I paid for that Scout light. It was a steal. And if I could, I'd drop the XD and put on a T1.
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11 November 2010, 14:12 #312
Well, I do, without a doubt, like that format.
This will very likely switch from the MI Light rail/VLTOR Scount mount to a MOE Handguard and the IWC Offset Scout mount (from top mount).S/F
"There is no greater calling than to defend the life of a fellow Marine" - LtCol McClane, USMC
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11 November 2010, 16:34 #313Member
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Bought my first AR platform this year, only put about 500 rounds through it so far.
Rock River Arms AR-15 Elite Comp
Here's the spec list from the stock setup
I added a badger charging handle and star ambi safety. I recently added the Magpul MS-2 sling with the ASAP sling attachment.
The optic is a cheapo NCstar, might need to update that sometime soon.
I really like the ergo hand grip and the RRA stock has a nice cheek well to it.
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14 November 2010, 20:03 #314Member
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LMT CQB Piston
This is my 16" LMT piston AR. Pretty much stock just a few upgrades:
- My old Aimpoint ML2/ QRP mount with a new FDE rubber cover and lens covers
- Tango Full VFG( hands are too big for stubby eve with a high grip)
- Magpul back up sights
-Magpul ASAP (Not in pic)
The MRP/ piston combo is somewhat heavier than some of the M4/AR's ive shot but i spent 7 months lugging around a M14 so i dont mind it much. Im trying to keep the accessories to a minimum and go all polymer as much as possible.
So far everything about piston guns is true with this one. I put 600 A/E 5.56 55gr. through it in PMAGs with no hicups. Cleand it with a canopy wipe and some CLP in 2 min. At 100yds i couldnt notice any accuracy difference but a Army buddy who is a much better shot than me said there is some minor drop off in grouping from DI guns 200yds+( outside of my scope of responsibility)
One thing i would like to mention is that i bought a Magpul B.A.D leaver a few weeks ago and it caused the BCG to drag severely.
The MRP dosent have a cutout for the charging paddle and the B.A.D was a too thick- Tried it file off a mm off the B.A.D lever but it would still drag 2 out of 3 cycles so i gave it to a buddy. Guess this is a common hit or miss thing for the lever and different uppers.
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Noveske rifles
The purpose of this rifle is for 3-gun. I just built it 3 weeks ago for Area 6 multigun championship.
Noveske 18" 5.56 Rogue Hunter - Upper
Noveske 18 inch stainless barrel with intermediate gas - to meet power factor, balance the softness of shooting and maneuverability, and get the accuracy of noveske SS barrel.
SJC Titan brake - The best brake in the industry for pure recoil control
Troy 13" extreme Battle rail - small tubular, easy to hold and point, very light
Noveske Bolt - I don't find anything wrong with this automatic well staked bolt by Noveske.
BCM Mod 3 charging handle - very easy to rack with one hand.
Noveske N4 - lower
Geisselle S3G trigger - designed for 3-gun. Very smooth 1 stage trigger. quick reset for faster follow-up shots.
Vltor Emod A5 Stock - A5 is designed for intermediate gas system. It has longer receiver extension, rifle action spring and A5 buffer. This is softer shooting than Carbine stock receiver kits. Emod because I already have it and it is a decent stock that balances the 18" barrel well.
Optics
Tijicon Accupoint TR-24R. Good value, simple reticle, decent glass. No battery to worry. Always on. With Cat Tail to easily adjust the magnification.
Larue SPR-E mount - Larue makes the best optics mount in the industry. Solid 1 piece QD mount. Secure and can return back to zero if you remove it and put it back on.
No BUIS on this rifle because this is a game and hunting gun not my tactical/defense weapon.
I do not have multi-purpose rifles anymore. I sold all of my 'multipurpose" rifles and now only have 2, my game rifle and defense rifle.
Here's my service/tactical rifle.
Noveske N4 14.5" Lo-Pro - upper
14.5" N4 barrel with carbine gas - short, very light, easy to point and shoot. Also designed for heavy use with it's special layered chrome lining.
SWS quadrail - thin, light, built in QD ports for sling attachment, non-rotational design and solid construction.
Troy BUIS - These are amongs the simplest, more reliable foldable iron sights.
FCS556 Brake - decent balance of recoil reduction and flash suppression. Pinned so that ATF compliant. Also barely affects my fellow shooters when practicing. Loud but not so loud.
PRI gas busting charging handle - I shoot this rifle alot in trainings so i do not like so much gas coming back at me.
Optics.
Trijicon accupoin TR24 - shared. - My scope is always mounted in this defense gun unless i go to 3-gun matches then this scope moves to my 18" rogue hunter. true 1X and like red dot. Good for defense.
Noveske n4 -lower
Geissele SSA trigger - No adjustment to mess with. Smooth trigger but not dangerously light. Just crisp.
Vltor Modstock - Carbine stock system, H2 buffer - Designed for 14.5". Very light stock to balance the light 14.5" barrel.
Noveske QD end plate - for easy sling attachment.
Magpul MS2 Sling - easily adjustable 1 point and 2 point sling.
Light - Surefire 6P LED in Larue QD mount. - Throws decent 60 lumens, LED so not affected much by the recoil. Good deal on surefire 6P. Simple operation just push button located on the weak side.
Magazines - Magpul 30 rds. Reliable.
Ammunition - 55gr FMJ Atlanta Arms and Ammo. - Good for practice and competition. Loaded properly. Will meet power factor.
M855 - tactical load. Cheap. Can penetrate thin steel if needed.
M262 - for home defense and target shooting.
Sorry for the delay. Holidays plus workload....
Here's my 2 Noveske side by side
-SmoothdrawLast edited by smoothdraw; 2 December 2010 at 17:16. Reason: input pictures