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    Can Cannon ruled NFA item.

    Just saw this posted from X-Products. It appears the ATF has ruled the Can Cannon upper an SBR if at attached to a rifle lower and a AOW when attached to a pistol. Interesting to see how this plays out... Damn ATF and their determination letters...


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    Wow... That's bullshit. I really wanted one.
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    I think it's cute that BATFE still considers itself a law enforcement agency.

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    I knew I should have bought one during the summer.

    Lame.

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    Wonder what the ATF now considers a soft drink vending machine?
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    Curious to know what happens to people who already own one. Do they have to go through the SBR/AOW registration process or are they grandfathered in? If they are grandfathered in, how do they prove it?

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    Thanks ATF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOST View Post
    Wonder what the ATF now considers a soft drink vending machine?
    WMD.

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    FUATF

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    Waiting for the reclassification of Nerf guns as destructive devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by din View Post
    Waiting for the reclassification of Nerf guns as destructive devices.
    There ya go. So if I paint my kids full auto magazine fed under 16" nerf gun black will I be required to register it?

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    So my catapult upper idea is DOA? Free range bureaucrats are scary, joyless vermin. Time to elect some exterminators.
    “ When I comes to modern politics, I think the inverse of Hanlon's Razor applies...In other words, "Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice." - Kerplode

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    Why are so many people surprised by this? SBR was my first thought the moment I saw the product. Here is the ATF definition of what constitutes a firearm.

    DEFINITION OF "FIREARM": 18 USC § 921(a)(3), (4). Any weapon (including a starter gun) which will expel a projectile by means of an explosive or is designed or may be readily converted to do so. This includes the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any firearm muffler or silencer or any destructive device. A "destructive device" includes any explosive, incendiary or poison gas --- (i)bomb; (ii) grenade or (iii) similar device, or any combination of parts designed or intended for use in converting any device into a destructive device, or from which a destructive device may be readily assembled. Does not include antique firearms.
    The can cannon clearly meets the above definition. In my past work experience, I had a ranch boss who was looking into tranquilizer type guns for immunizations and tranquilizing difficult animals. When he realized that they were regulated as firearms because they use blanks to launch the syringe, he pursued other options due to his desire to avoid registration laws in his area.

    That seems to be a crystal clear precedent to me. It almost seems like someone skipped the legality research part of their R&D and subsequent marketing.

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    You don't want to pistol a can cannon. If you have shot one you know it kicks more than a 12ga shotgun.

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