Let's build an extreme use AR-15 (UPDATE PAGE 8 & 9)

[Stickman]

Parts are all in, I've test fitted the upper, and everything fits nicely. Once I get a day off, I'll be able to assemble everything properly, and we can get started.




ETA- I'll see if I can shoot a quick picture today.

[TehLlama]

Yay! New thread with pictures, yay!

I feel a disturbance in the force; as if millions of keyboards cried out, and were drowned in puddles of drool. I fear Stick made another picture thread.

[Stickman]

Here is the rough layout. The upper is dialed in the way it will be in testing, but the optic will vary throughout the testing.

If the MBUS sights are destroyed, we will replicate the impact or activity that caused them to fail with Troy Sights, mainly because Troy is viewed as a standard by many people. I have new Troy sights which will be used for this, not my older broken one.

The lower will not be a M16 lower, as this would create problems in loaning it out for testing to other people involved in the testing. I need to switch out the lower receiver (SunDevil) to wear a MOE grip, and UBR (or carbine stock).



Below is a quick snapshot of where we are...

[armakraut]

Pretty good looking as is.

What's the length on that new magpul stock from the closed position like that photograph?

[Stickman]

Pretty good looking as is.

What's the length on that new magpul stock from the closed position like that photograph?

Its about an inch longer than a CTR when I put them next to each other.

[SKULL]

looks really good stick..

any news on when the new Magpul ACS stock is available?

[ryanm]

I wish I could get my hands on that Amodel AC flash hider without the suppressor. They don't sell individually and Iowa isn't a suppressor friendly state.

[Stickman]

I wish I could get my hands on that Amodel AC flash hider without the suppressor. They don't sell individually and Iowa isn't a suppressor friendly state.

Are you looking just for the AAC FS? If so, they are available.

[ryanm]

Yep, thats what I'm looking for--can you point me in the right direction as far as vendor? Thanks!

[OUTLAW-ONE]

Yep, thats what I'm looking for--can you point me in the right direction as far as vendor? Thanks!

call Mike at 770-925-9988 x 101. They are in stock, I just ordered a 3 prong blackout.

[Mute]

Hey stick,

Which mount are you using there for the Aimpoint?

[Stickman]

Hey stick,

Which mount are you using there for the Aimpoint?

Its the Bobro mount.

[Mute]

Thanks!

[jp0319]

Ok assuming money and parts availability are NO object the following are the parts I would choose to build with based upon sticks original guidance. Oh and the default reason for all the parts is (best part IMHO)

Handguard: Larue

Sights: LMT BUIS Front and rear
Reason:most robust on the market

Optic: Aimpoint Comp M4S with Larue Mount
Reason:Built like a tank long battery life nuff said

Grip:Magpul Maid

Stock: VLTOR EMOD

Barrel including length: Noveskie 14.5 Afghan
Reason:Noveskie quality 249 double chrome lining

LPK/Trigger:4.5 lb JP trigger pack
Reason:I like single stage triggers my only other alternative would be the standard trigger issued in the M4 as far as reliability the standard would be the best

Buffer: No preference I know there are a ton out there and I really dont have a lot of knowledge on them or why you would go with one over the other I always use what comes with my rifle

BCG:BCM or LMT enhanced BCG probibly NP3 coated for better lubricity

Upper Rec:VLTOR MUR
Reason:Robust

Lower Rec:Larue Billet Lower
Reason:Larue, Integrated trigger guard, Larue, did I mention that already

Magazine:Magpul Pmag

Lights/lasers/etc:Surefire M600c

Charging Handle: PRI Gas Buster

Flash Hider/Comp:Surefire FA556-212

Misc Stuff rail covers etc:Magpul XTM

[Stickman]

jp0319,

Unless something has changed recently, Larue Tactical doesn't make a lower as they don't have the proper license for it. I don't blame them one bit for not wanting to jump into the weapon manufacturing side of things, its a lot heavier on the paperwork side of things, and having SMOS do the work for them makes a lot of sense. Making your own lowers and weapons is a big deal, and even Magpul opted to do their lowers through Noveske Rifleworks because of all the aggravation associated with it.

Back to the original comment, if we had a SMOS lower, I would look at using it, though I don't really think they are all that much different than other billet lowers that are out there. POF and Sun Devil are two of the earlier companies that were using billet lowers, and we may be using one of them.



Good layout ideas, I think we are pretty close to final components right now.