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    Is noveske contributing a VIS to the cause?

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    I'd like to see how this little guy held up..
    Seen it at SHOT and It caught my eye.. Ya know, being a lefty and all..

    ARMADYNAMICS ACLM, AR-15 Ambidextruous Charging Handle for 5.56



    http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/merch...S/ACLM-ACH-001

    CXS

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    Quote Originally Posted by armakraut View Post
    Is noveske contributing a VIS to the cause?


    I don't think John has any idea that this project is even going on. To answer your question, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Custom-X_Sponjah View Post
    I'd like to see how this little guy held up..
    Seen it at SHOT and It caught my eye.. Ya know, being a lefty and all..

    ARMADYNAMICS ACLM, AR-15 Ambidextruous Charging Handle for 5.56



    http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/merch...S/ACLM-ACH-001

    CXS

    I can't seem to find any info for that company.

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    Stick - it looks like you already had a setup in mind, for the most part,when you initially posted this. Any more details you care to divulge?
    -Mitch-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    I can't seem to find any info for that company.
    HUH.. They don't seem to have a website.
    I saw this CH at the "Mounting Solutions Plus" Booth..
    Here is everything I found on the company...
    Looks to be a Garage Style operation, as most companies start out before they make that "One Golden Egg" that jump starts them..

    Armament Dynamics Industries Llc (Armadynamics)
    10903 W 84th Pl, Arvada, CO 80005-5219

    Contact Phone: (303) 868-6314
    URL (web address): N/A
    Business Category: Mfg Small Arms And Accessories in Arvada, CO
    Industry (SIC): Small Arms

    Business Information:
    This company profile is for the private company Armament Dynamics Industries Llc , located in Arvada, CO. Armadynamics's line of business is mfg small arms and accessories.

    Company Name: Armament Dynamics Industries Llc

    Address: 10903 W 84th Pl, Arvada, CO 80005-5219
    Alt Business Name: Armadynamics
    Location Type: Single Location
    Est. Annual Sales: $52,000
    Est. # of Employees: 1
    Est. Empl. at Loc.: 1
    Year Started: 2006
    State of Incorp: N/A
    SIC #Code: 3484
    Contact's Name: Thomas T Hoel
    Contact's Title: N/A
    NAICS: Small Arms Manufacturing

    http://www.mwgco.com/Merchant2/merch...s/ACLM-ACH-001

    http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/merch...S/ACLM-ACH-001

    http://www.mannyusa.com/Firearms_Tra...M-ACH-001.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1rCWy86xE

    CXS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uglyduck View Post
    Stick - it looks like you already had a setup in mind, for the most part,when you initially posted this. Any more details you care to divulge?


    I had an idea, but not a setup.

    I had wanted an adjustable stock, but was talked into the UBR. The idea of a monothlic upper seemed well agreed to, and the VIS works out better for me than a MRP. No one came up with a reason to go away from the Geiselle trigger or LMT enhanced BCG, so I think we will go with those.

    I'm still up in the air on the lower, and barrel..... and sights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    I'm still up in the air on ... sights.
    If beat-the-snot-out-of-it durability is still the primary focus of this build, I'm sticking with the fixed LaRue BUIS. Whether you like Mark or not, and it's clear that a lot of folks around here don't think much of him, you have to admit that sight is a helluva sturdy piece of hardware and would require quite a bit of motivation to destroy. IMO, "we need to be able to break something" is tacit recognition of that sight's durability and doesn't make much sense nor justify omitting it when this thread is titled "Let's build an extreme use AR15...".
    Last edited by jvencius; 19 February 2009 at 17:27.

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    How will you judge what meets your objective of heavy use/abuse.

    By each individual component separately prior to adding it to the build , or as a complete rifle.

    Durability tests usually take awhile to gather empirical evidence.
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    Stick are you going to be loaning this out and letting people put massive amounts of rounds through it etc. or are you going to be dropping it running it over etc. ? Since I didn't get a response any chance that you'd be willing to run a redi mag system on it to see how it holds up to abuse? Also my vote if you're putting massive rounds through it for barrel would be Noveske N4 chrome lined and any billet lower that has an integrated trigger guard.

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    jvencius,


    I've seen no mention of why the LT sight wouldn't work, you've made implications in other threads, and its time to stop. I'm uninterested in the problems that occur on other boards, or the drama that some thrive on.

    With the thread derailment over, I agree that a fixed sight platform is often more durable than a folding unit. LMT, LT, and DD all have units that would surely work, and I would hope so as we are talking simply about a fixed rear sight. The problem is that not everyone wants a fixed rear sight.

    Durability and usability are two different things, and a fixed sight isn't going to be the answer for every platform. I'm half tempted to use MBUS, just to see how well they hold up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmmmmm View Post
    How will you judge what meets your objective of heavy use/abuse.

    By each individual component separately prior to adding it to the build , or as a complete rifle.

    Durability tests usually take awhile to gather empirical evidence.

    This isn't going to be a test conducted in a lab, and because of that, we are going to miss a lot of information that something like the military drop tests would show.

    The idea is to document what abuse we can put the weapon through, and give our thoughts as users handle it. There are certainly better ways to conduct full testing, but military scale testing is beyond our means at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcoastie View Post
    Stick are you going to be loaning this out and letting people put massive amounts of rounds through it etc. or are you going to be dropping it running it over etc. ? Since I didn't get a response any chance that you'd be willing to run a redi mag system on it to see how it holds up to abuse? Also my vote if you're putting massive rounds through it for barrel would be Noveske N4 chrome lined and any billet lower that has an integrated trigger guard.


    Not ignoring your Redimag idea, I'm just not sure what lower we'll be using, and the Redimag won't fit on the billet units.

    As of right now, there are LE and MIL guys who have expressed an interest in using the upper aside from the regular guys on the WEVO Staff. Those guys will be given the upper, and will run it on their LE/MIL lowers.

    I like the idea of the Noveske barrel, I'm just not sure that John N. has any which aren't spoken for, and I hate to impose on friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    This isn't going to be a test conducted in a lab, and because of that, we are going to miss a lot of information that something like the military drop tests would show.

    The idea is to document what abuse we can put the weapon through, and give our thoughts as users handle it. There are certainly better ways to conduct full testing, but military scale testing is beyond our means at this point.
    How are you defining abuse? High and sustained rates of fire? Ability to withstand rough handling (banging into door thresholds, vehicles doors, sustaining drops, etc.)? All of the above?

    And what ranges are you focussing on, 0-50 yds, 0-100 yds, 0-200, any need to reach further out? That would dictate, or could at least heavily influence the optic choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmart View Post
    How are you defining abuse?

    Taken from the first post....

    Think drop testing of components, thing about a carbine that will soak up loads of users worst punishment, and come back for more. Think along the lines of an AR15 that is going to get treated like a conscript treats their AK.

    Different things are going to happen from different users, which is why optics will change around. Its also part of why there isn't a set list of things that will happen, or an order that they will happen in.

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