Is there any reason to buy a 9mm suppressor?

[alamo5000]

I've been stewing over getting a 9mm suppressor for quite some time.

I had a few 9mm cans in mind and I was narrowing down my list...but now that the Griffin Optimus is coming to market... why in the world should I even consider getting a dedicated 9mm can?

With the Optimus the main thing is versatility.

If I bought the Optimus and let's just say I never used it on any of the other calibers...Head to Head with the Revolution 9... the numbers stack up like this:

With the Optimus on the GA video it says 9mm subs register 131 DB on a pistol (1:26 of the video) but in the very next segment it says sub sonic is 122 DB in an MP5 (1:40). I am not really sure how that can be? What causes that?

On the GA Revolution 9 though it says it meters right around 125 DB in Silencer Shop's video. On GA's site they say "34DB attenuation"...

If I am reading this all correctly that basically means roughly the full size dedicated 9mm can is about 5 or 6 DB quieter than the Optimus (on a 9mm). Of course it matters ammo and host weapon but that is just a rough guess. (That is comparing the full size of the Revolution 9 to the Optimus in 9mm configuration) When you put the Revolution in K configuration (the shorter configuration) the suppression seems a lot closer to each other. (Per Silencer Shop's video the average is just over 128 DB in K configuration or only 2-3 DB difference)

It seems like comparing the K configuration to the Optimus in 9mm would be a pretty similar result.

Now to throw more in the mix per Silencer Shop's other video my Recce 5 meters right around 130 DB. So is that sound level about what I can expect out of the K configuration on the K config Rev 9 or the Optimus? (minus the sonic crack of course)

Does this sound about right? I am thinking out loud here trying to do my homework and coming up with some pros and cons to each.

[alamo5000]

I don't know if it's worth it or not to and compare the Optimus in .22 configuration to say the Checkmate QD...If someone knows by all means do share because I am curious about that too.

On a .308 you are looking at almost identical suppression between the Recce 7 and the Optimus. Maybe a couple of DB only difference.

The Optimus will definitely save money for sure vs buying dedicated cans... for the .22 and the 9mm (both) it would be roughly within $150 ish dollars...but then say you wanted a Recce 7 to cover .30 cal....Overall the Optimus would save you about $1000 or so (all inclusive including tax stamps) vs getting dedicated cans for each caliber.

I am just wondering if there is any reason to go one route vs the other? Other than just that extra thousand bucks to cover .30 cal...money aside is what I am wondering about.

[DeviantLogic]

Any suppressor I get I want it to serve as many items as possible. For that reason a dedicated 9mm suppressor is never going to be on my list. For pistols, I mostly shoot 45 and 40 anyways...so I'd get a .45 can if/when I get a suppressor dedicated to pistols. The modularity of the Optimus is awesome, and might be on my 2016 list of purchases. The Liberty Mystic X is another one I like...primarily because of the MAAD mount adapter, allowing you to use the SilencerCo MAAD Mounts to attach to other popular muzzle devices.

[alamo5000]

Any suppressor I get I want it to serve as many items as possible. For that reason a dedicated 9mm suppressor is never going to be on my list. For pistols, I mostly shoot 45 and 40 anyways...so I'd get a .45 can if/when I get a suppressor dedicated to pistols. The modularity of the Optimus is awesome, and might be on my 2016 list of purchases. The Liberty Mystic X is another one I like...primarily because of the MAAD mount adapter, allowing you to use the SilencerCo MAAD Mounts to attach to other popular muzzle devices.

The Optimus can't shoot .40 or .45...

That said the Optimus is throwing a monkey wrench into my thought process :) It's a very attractive option though. Definitely.

Rome wasn't built in a day. I just need to stew on it and eventually choose a route. On one hand though I kind of want to have one for each but I don't really have any particular reason for that other than I might eek out a little bit better performance here or there (maybe). Maybe it's because the Optimus didn't exist when I started forming my opinions about stuff.

[DeviantLogic]

Right, in order to shoot 40 or 45, you're looking at dedicated pistol suppressors. The Griffin Optimus looks like a great setup. If it was my first can, it's what I'd be buying. The only thing that holds me up is having to change out muzzle devices...the cost of switching over is about as much as the can :) If you already have a Recce 5 then you'd be able to use your existing flash hiders/compensators.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

You're not gonna listen to us anyway. We told you to get the Recce 7 and you went with the Recce 5.

But in all seriousness it really depends on what host and intended long term use is. Where is the can gonna be at home. On a rifle or pistol? You have the Recce 5, so why not get a dedicated pistol can.

This is why I went with a 7.62 can, 45 can and a 22 can. My trifecta is compete should the laws get Squirrley. I can always add dedicated cans now but now all my bases are covered...

[alamo5000]

You're not gonna listen to us anyway. We told you to get the Recce 7 and you went with the Recce 5.

But in all seriousness it really depends on what host and intended long term use is. Where is the can gonna be at home. On a rifle or pistol? You have the Recce 5, so why not get a dedicated pistol can.

This is why I went with a 7.62 can, 45 can and a 22 can. My trifecta is compete should the laws get Squirrley. I can always add dedicated cans now but now all my bases are covered...

HAHAAA! I am listening. Otherwise I wouldn't be in this boat. I didn't own anything before. Then I came to WEVO with all your sexy pictures and tactical talk... :)

My next can I want to be for a pistol. It will most likely live on a Sig 226 or maybe other guns that I may get in the future. I am thinking 9mm because it's a popular caliber that has tons of different hosts that I can get. I can get so many things in 9mm it's just stupid... plus I can buy a ton of ammo. Don't get me wrong, I love my .45 but 'if I had to pick just one' (which I don't)...it would probably be 9mm.

Ideally I will have one rifle suppressor in a battle rifle caliber (IE AR)...and a 9mm. Between those two I am GTG in the event that there is a zombie apocalypse. I can shoot more for cheaper with both of those very common calibers too. Because of all that I am kind of gravitating to those being my two main go to calibers...they are both sufficient for self defense and reasonably priced recreation. In a true SHTF situation those would be what I could have and be stocked up on. Instead of having 15 calibers I can live on two. Realistically if I could keep a few thousand rounds of each caliber that would be good. Honestly I would kind of rather have a lot of a few things than a few of a lot of things.

That said it's not like I don't already have a bunch of calibers....and I can still shoot unsuppressed. Once I get my core bases of a pistol and a rifle covered everything else is 'nice to have'. Getting into .22 with a rifle and a pistol will probably be high on the next thing list and truth be told I probably can just buy the .22 suppressor before I ever get the guns for it, mainly because the process to get the can is so cumbersome.

Not that I don't like bigger rifle calibers but I am being realistic in the cost of shooting for me and my 'strategy' for things. Realistically if I do go into the larger rifle calibers it will probably be up the road at least a year or two. It's not high on the priority list. So realistically spending an extra thousand bucks spread out over the course of several years, especially for a long term investment... it's not that big of a deal.

Two or three years from now, or hell, maybe before then I might win the lottery.... but in the mean time I have to create my own version of a strategy. I am not a full blown prepper but in some ways it does kind of appeal to me on a certain level.

[Former11B]

I like caliber specific cans because I have no issue with the "suppress 'em all" mentality. A jack-of-all-trades can was never something I needed or wanted.

I want to open my safe one day and each gun have a can on it (Save for my conceal carry pistol and my few trophy guns).

To each, his own, for sure, it just depends on your needs. I like my dedicated 9mm suppressor. It's really light and quiet.

For example, the Rev9 is 2 ounces lighter but an inch longer than the Optimus in Pistol Config. according to their site. Only an eighth of a pound difference, but a difference nonetheless.

If I had ZERO suppressors right now, I would probably buy the Optimus so I could cover some bases til I saved up for more, but eventually, the Optimus would end up on one rifle only, and I'd have other rifle/pistol cans so it's functionality would be wasted on me after a certain point. I'm past that point now, so the Optimus isn't right for me. I'd rather buy a Recce 7 and an M4SDII and a Rev9 and a Checkmate to go with my Recce 5 (and other cans). But that's just MY style. I don't want to be fiddling and converting. I want to set down this suppressed gun, and pick up that suppressed gun, rinse, repeat.

[alamo5000]

I like caliber specific cans because I have no issue with the "suppress 'em all" mentality. A jack-of-all-trades can was never something I needed or wanted.

I want to open my safe one day and each gun have a can on it (Save for my conceal carry pistol and my few trophy guns).

To each, his own, for sure, it just depends on your needs. I like my dedicated 9mm suppressor. It's really light and quiet.

For example, the Rev9 is 2 ounces lighter but an inch longer than the Optimus in Pistol Config. according to their site. Only an eighth of a pound difference, but a difference nonetheless.

If I had ZERO suppressors right now, I would probably buy the Optimus so I could cover some bases til I saved up for more, but eventually, the Optimus would end up on one rifle only, and I'd have other rifle/pistol cans so it's functionality would be wasted on me after a certain point. I'm passed that point now, so the Optimus isn't right for me. I'd rather buy a Recce 7 and an M4SDII and a Rev9 and a Checkmate to go with my Recce 5 (and other cans). But that's just MY style. I don't want to be fiddling and converting. I want to set down this suppressed gun, and pick up that suppressed gun, rinse, repeat.

Thank you for sharing your opinion. It's something more to think about. Yes overall it is more money but there are benefits. Plus if something goes wrong you still have other suppressors. I also kind of had my mind set to look in the gun cabinet one day and see a suppressor on every gun...

Also what happens if you have a baffle strike or something goes on... then (at least for a while) you have nothing suppressed if there is just one suppressor involved.

At the end of the day though-- and maybe other people can comment on it or offer ideas or suggestions---but the idea of having two main go to calibers (5.56 and 9mm) and ultimately having several guns in each and having enough reasonably priced ammo and supplies is kind of my goal. Any comments on that? How does everyone else do it? Or has anyone ever even thought about it?

Of course I still have other guns in other calibers... and eventually I would add .22 to that list... but .40, .45, .300 blackout, .308 etc are something else. Once I get my core stuff down then branching out to stock up on other stuff... sure.

[DutyUse]

I like the idea of having a 9mm suppressor that can double as a subsonic 300Blk rig

[GRIFFIN ARMAMENT]

I would be really surprised if someone bought an Optimus and never fired it on another caliber.

If a dedicated 9mm can is what you want, the Rev 9 might be a better value (lower cost, lighter weight). The MP5 has a 10" barrel so it is quite a bit more quiet than a pistol barrel. We also shot the Optimus on a 14.5" 38 special 1873 and it was pure stealth. Nuts. That is like a 9mm with a 14.5" barrel.

[alamo5000]

I would be really surprised if someone bought an Optimus and never fired it on another caliber.

If a dedicated 9mm can is what you want, the Rev 9 might be a better value (lower cost, lighter weight). The MP5 has a 10" barrel so it is quite a bit more quiet than a pistol barrel. We also shot the Optimus on a 14.5" 38 special 1873 and it was pure stealth. Nuts. That is like a 9mm with a 14.5" barrel.

How much does a Revolution 9 and an Optimus knock down .22 LR?

[Slippers]

I would be really surprised if someone bought an Optimus and never fired it on another caliber.

If a dedicated 9mm can is what you want, the Rev 9 might be a better value (lower cost, lighter weight). The MP5 has a 10" barrel so it is quite a bit more quiet than a pistol barrel. We also shot the Optimus on a 14.5" 38 special 1873 and it was pure stealth. Nuts. That is like a 9mm with a 14.5" barrel.

So torn between a rev 9 or octane 9 for a tri lug setup. Decisions, decisions!

[alamo5000]

So torn between a rev 9 or octane 9 for a tri lug setup. Decisions, decisions!

If it's of any consequence I now have can #2 on the way. I ordered a Revolution 9 this evening.

Son of a bitch! I hate those Griffin guys! I shake my wallet and fist in their general direction.

[alamo5000]

So torn between a rev 9 or octane 9 for a tri lug setup. Decisions, decisions!

For about a hundred bucks less... I don't know why you wouldn't pick the Rev 9. Full auto rated and identical sound suppression... plus there is more modular options (full or K) with the Griffin.