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    lol
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    I put some on the first AR I built. I'll never put them on another. There wasn't anything wrong with them, they're just expensive and don't add anything to a rifle. I imagine they're still popular with people who buy ARs with Punisher rollmarks and stuff like that.

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    Never used them and never needed them. Always thought it was a scam. I put them right up there with the Mood ring and canned sunshine. I run Geissle triggers, has a spring inside to lock the pin in place. PS, I ran your ABC through my carbine course twice this weekend and all I can say is WOW! Rock solid, excellent design! Ran flawlessly.

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    @ Dutyuse, that thing looks exactly like the masterlink on the chain of my YZ250f... Hehehehe...

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    Don't use them
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    Is Bill Geisselle still advising against using them with his triggers? Last thing I heard was KNS was going to make a version of pins that wouldn't cause failures Geissele and others triggers experienced?

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    As far as I have heard they are still not recommended. For one they are the wrong size and I have heard they are much softer than the pins supplied with the Geissele triggers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffy View Post
    Is Bill Geisselle still advising against using them with his triggers? Last thing I heard was KNS was going to make a version of pins that wouldn't cause failures Geissele and others triggers experienced?
    What failures? Got examples? I suppose anything can fail, but I've never heard of a Geissele doing anything but working the way it's supposed to.
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    I once went full retard with the Nickel Boron Upper/Lower and rail. Stainless barrel and brake. Chrome FA. UBR stock. Nickel Boron BCG. Chrome controls and even some KNS pins. Since I didn't have a rapper to rent the gun to for a video, I took it to my local range. I sat down and pulled that thing out of the case and I was overwhelmed by the amount of douche that instantly surrounded me at the range. I knew right then I had crossed the line and I needed to get rid of the abortion I had created as soon as possible.

    I now associate KNS pins with that experience.

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    While I don't necessarily consider them douche accoutrements, I don't see the need for them, otherwise they'd have been around for 50 years. That said, I did try some, and one set is still on a lower, though I haven't gotten around to upgrading the trigger on it. Once I put a Geissele in it, the KNS pins will come off and stay off.
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    So much hatred for the KNS pins

    I use them, only because I had pins walk during a hunt. Was not my rifle, but never wanted to deal with that issue again. For 30 dollars a rifle it's pretty simple peace of mind, and an extremely small expense in the scope of a rifle that I intend on hunting with.

    That said I have had 0 issues with builds I have not use them on when the springs are properly installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco75 View Post
    I once went full retard with the Nickel Boron Upper/Lower and rail. Stainless barrel and brake. Chrome FA. UBR stock. Nickel Boron BCG. Chrome controls and even some KNS pins. Since I didn't have a rapper to rent the gun to for a video, I took it to my local range. I sat down and pulled that thing out of the case and I was overwhelmed by the amount of douche that instantly surrounded me at the range. I knew right then I had crossed the line and I needed to get rid of the abortion I had created as soon as possible.

    I now associate KNS pins with that experience.

    Hahahah that's hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joelski View Post
    What failures? Got examples? I suppose anything cab fail, but I've never heard of a Geissele doing anything but working the way it's supposed to.
    The KNS pins are undersized and caused some issues with the 2 stage triggers resetting. And there were also claims from Geissele they had KNS pins wear quickly, and also developed burrs that caused a gritty feel and a doubling incident.

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    Quite a bit of opinions and info here http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/45...Confusion.html

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    Yep, this guy sums it up...

    "Throw out the stupid fuckin KNS pins, they have NO place being used with Geissele triggers." and, " In short, if you own a Geissele trigger and have it held in place with KNS pins, you're a moron" That was one funny ass thread, I was rollin!

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