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**Pyzik** · 23 January 2016, 10:09

Originally Posted by schambers

Nobody mentioned the prototype AK. I think the AK-alm or something like that.

Probably the thing that interests me the most. Supposedly coming out this year with an MSRP around $1200

From who? I checked out pretty much every AK thing I could. Haha

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**tact** · 23 January 2016, 10:30

Originally Posted by DutyUse

I know a lot of guys don't like lwrc but this little .45 smg is the hotness

I particularly like LWRC, but tired of the product unveiling lasting 2+ it takes for them finally produce them.

**DutyUse** · 23 January 2016, 10:32

Originally Posted by Pyzik

From who? I checked out pretty much every AK thing I could. Haha

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's talking about these

http://youtu.be/_pT5ZX7bbmo

**alamo5000** · 23 January 2016, 11:54

Originally Posted by DutyUse

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's talking about these

http://youtu.be/_pT5ZX7bbmo

9mm AK SBR... OHHH EMM GEE!!!

**gatordev** · 23 January 2016, 12:44

Kalashnikov USA is sketch. Unless they've changed their sources, there was a lot of distrust of their product when they first popped up. Plus people weren't happy with their naming.

Atlantic Firearms is importing a 9mm AK that I'd probably look at first, as the parts are actually from FSB sources, as I understand it.

**Pyzik** · 23 January 2016, 12:50

Kalashnikov USA is sketchy. I like the looks of the new rifle but no swappable grip is a fail.

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**Thompson** · 23 January 2016, 14:26

Originally Posted by gatordev

Kalashnikov USA is sketch. Unless they've changed their sources, there was a lot of distrust of their product when they first popped up.

What's wrong? They use inferior/cheap materials?

**Pyzik** · 23 January 2016, 15:34

Originally Posted by Thompson

What's wrong? They use inferior/cheap materials?

Just not tried yet. No pedigree.

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**schambers** · 23 January 2016, 15:40

Originally Posted by DutyUse

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's talking about these

http://youtu.be/_pT5ZX7bbmo

That's the one... Not the 9mm, but the polymer AK with standard AK internals. Rob Ski of the AK47 operators Union did a quick video on it as well

**schambers** · 23 January 2016, 15:45

Originally Posted by Pyzik

Just not tried yet. No pedigree.

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I assumed that Kalash USA was some kind of franchise that the Kalashnikov Concern (similar to IWI and IMI) spun up once importation of Russian firearms was banned. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. I've never heard about Kalash USA until this SHOT show.

If anybody has more info on the corp, I would be interested to know.

**gatordev** · 23 January 2016, 16:12

Originally Posted by schambers

I assumed that Kalash USA was some kind of franchise that the Kalashnikov Concern (similar to IWI and IMI) spun up once importation of Russian firearms was banned. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. I've never heard about Kalash USA until this SHOT show.

If anybody has more info on the corp, I would be interested to know.

That's been part of the problem/complaint with Kalashinkov USA. They're cashing in on that assumption. They're are not part of Kalashnikov Concern and have even been sued (or at least challenged) by the Concern. I'm going off of memory here, so take it for what it's worth, but I believe there's also been some question about their parts sourcing (ie, not Russian or even FSB). Is that a bad thing? Time will tell, as Pyzyik mentioned (pedigree), but they are not associated with the conventional Saiga/Concern apparatus.

**schambers** · 23 January 2016, 16:25

That's crazy

**Pyzik** · 23 January 2016, 16:50

Originally Posted by schambers

I assumed that Kalash USA was some kind of franchise that the Kalashnikov Concern (similar to IWI and IMI) spun up once importation of Russian firearms was banned. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. I've never heard about Kalash USA until this SHOT show.

If anybody has more info on the corp, I would be interested to know.

It really has nothing to do with Izmash or Concern other than the name.

It's just an American company who was smart about the naming of their plant.

http://m.sputniknews.com/us/20150122/1017235662.html

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**Thompson** · 23 January 2016, 19:49

Originally Posted by gatordev

That's been part of the problem/complaint with Kalashinkov USA. They're cashing in on that assumption. They're are not part of Kalashnikov Concern and have even been sued (or at least challenged) by the Concern. I'm going off of memory here, so take it for what it's worth, but I believe there's also been some question about their parts sourcing (ie, not Russian or even FSB). Is that a bad thing? Time will tell, as Pyzyik mentioned (pedigree), but they are not associated with the conventional Saiga/Concern apparatus.

Ahhh .... interesting. Speaking of which, this was just posted: Kalashnikov USA at SHOT Show

IV8888 also did a quick video regarding these new AKs too:

... it will be interesting to see what happens if sanctions are lifted against Kalashnikov Concern.

**schambers** · 23 January 2016, 20:18

Originally Posted by Thompson

Ahhh .... interesting. Speaking of which, this was just posted: Kalashnikov USA at SHOT Show

Read the full30 blog post about Kalash USA at SHOT. Surprising and very disappointing.

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