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Thread: So I Need a Lower
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7 April 2016, 17:42 #46
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7 April 2016, 17:54 #47
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7 April 2016, 17:56 #48
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7 April 2016, 17:58 #49-One Nation, Under God
-"The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." ~ Michael Althsuler
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7 April 2016, 18:00 #50
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7 April 2016, 18:02 #51
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7 April 2016, 18:05 #52
Hey UWone77! ^ SEE! LMAO!
Fella's, I'm glad you are happy with your rifles. I don't think they're anything I'd touch with a 10 foot pole, but that my opinion, and UWone77 insisted I give it! So, here we are.Sturgill Simpson - You can have the Crown https://youtu.be/tNV16tz1NK0
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7 April 2016, 18:07 #53
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7 April 2016, 18:08 #54
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7 April 2016, 18:08 #55
I don't disagree with your entire post. In fact, some of it has some merit. However, it just reminds me of someone who's spent time talking and reading about it, but not actually putting it into action. It's easy to say yeah that won't work, but the way you spelled some things out, I can tell you have no real world experience with those items.
Let's address the handguards. Free Float handguards do in fact increase accuracy. I'm not sure what you consider accurate as on your other post, you seem to be fine with 24 MOA at 50 yards. There are a lot of guys, even if they shoot at dirt and paper like a lot of us, trying to squeeze every last millimeter of accuracy out of the gun. Maybe you just aren't familiar with newer, lighter handguards, but there are several out there that are very light weight. The BCM KMR comes to mind. The cheesegrater reference is funny, but really very out of date. $5 ladder covers will alleviate that. Newer KeyMod and MLOK handguards are very comfortable on your hands and do not grate them. The only time I shoot with gloves is when I shoot either Full Auto or suppressed or both. Semi Auto Shooting with a FF handguard... I've never had an issue getting too hot.
Can most of us really just get away with MOE handguards? Absolutely, but there is a use for FF. Maybe you just like and prefer a FSB because you don't run optics? In that case, a FSB is the most solid gas block there is and I can't fault anyone for preferring FSB uppers. I still own half a dozen of them.
I don't disagree on using F/A Bolt Carrier Groups, that's the only kind I run. H2 Buffers are unnecessary for 14.5, 16" Midlength gas systems. Simply trying to make that combo a one size fits all is not doing anyone any good. A heavier buffer slows down the carrier for suppressed shooting, overgassed barrels, ect. Calling it "timing" tells me you don't actually know what you're talking about.
Lube, and coatings, I can agree with that. Use more lube, and phosphate carriers is fine. The reason coatings have become popular, is because they are in fact easier to clean, and have come down in price. Many times they are the same price. Nothing wrong with using NiB, Melonite, ect carriers.
Heavy Barrels? I don't think you know what a heavy barrel is, until I told you in another thread they are generally .936 at the Gas Block. Most barrels are government profile barrels that are .750 at the gas block, those are considered medium contour barrels.
Advocating a white light placement under the barrel at 6 oclock tells me you've never run a low light class or worked at night. That has the MOST shadowing. 12 oclock is the optimal position, off set at 1 and 11 oclock being a close second.
I think there have been plenty of innovations in the AR market, and it keeps getting better. Do we need every whiz bang piece of gear? Absolutely not, but your post has a lot of misinformation.
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7 April 2016, 18:10 #56
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7 April 2016, 18:14 #57
Uwone77, I'm going to address you right now and ignore the dogpile. I'll come back later and give you a more detailed description. I did want to go back answer the edit to one of your posts that I missed. "Where did I learn this" in essence. It started with my father, who was a Vietnam LRRP. That began about 11 years old. Then a roving band of friends many of whom were and a couple who still are involved in Special Operations. They share my viewpoints because I learned those viewpoints from them and then put them into practice on the range. I'm not a "Black Op." I just learned from a couple of them. :)
Sturgill Simpson - You can have the Crown https://youtu.be/tNV16tz1NK0
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7 April 2016, 18:14 #58
I agree with some parts.
I am by no stretch of the imagination an "expert" or an "operator" (Lord I'm getting sick of hearing that word outside of the correct context). I try to read and listen and soak up everything I can once I commit to learning about it. I understand it's poor form to speak from anything less than experience, but the difference I feel here as opposed to elsewhere is that I can occasionally say something pretty dumb and not be burned at the stake. I expect that the reason is first that I don't paint myself as an "operator", and that I tend to preface questions by acknowledging that I am asking for input, not expecting a bunch of "yep".
When fear hits us, those who haven't trained responses into brain stem reflexive responses, will shit their pants and scream like girls, all the while spraying bullets in a general vicinity of the bad guy. The guy with training can channel that energy and utilize it to fight back in an organized fashion. This works in a variety of applications; war, civil unrest, structure fires, critically wounded children. It's called critical stress and how you respond to it determines your survival. Whether you walk off the battlefield, out of the hood, egress a fully involved structure fire, or do everthing right on the way to saving a dying kid's life. It's all the same, and anybody who would have you believe one is more stressful is chock full o'bullshit. It's about being repsonsible. For your life, for your partner's life, for a family of 6, or a child just starting out in the world. They (you) are relying on you to produce a positive result. At the end of the day, everybody at the table is awesome. That's why it's called a brotherhood.
Oh, and there are guys here with 4 or 5 of each different configuration rifle there is. I envy those guys, but if they played guitar, they'd drool over my stuff. FFor me, shooting is facet. I'm a solid plinker. I'd go bonkers shooting at targets , but that's other guys joy, and I know if I ever want to get good at longer shots, I need to settle down and do some target shooting. To each his own!There's no "Team" in F**K YOU!
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7 April 2016, 18:15 #59
Since you added that last bit...
You don't get off that easy sweetheart. You show up talking like a boss, and you think that means you can walk off back to the range unmarred with some kind if internet prowess. You tell us we're all doing it wrong, that most of are rifles are inept for defense, and that you have the answers, but you justify and prove nothing. So again, since you might be the 70yo denizen that sits at the range telling everyone how you once shot a commie at 2K yds with your M1A... Exactly what is your information based on, ie experience?
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7 April 2016, 18:22 #60
One thing you have to understand is, just because someone is MIL/LEO/Ninja/Samurai Warrior doesn't mean he knows jack about weapons. Most guys are trigger pullers, they don't know why or how it works, they just know how to eliminate targets. I know this because I work around guys who know nothing about the weapons platform they carry, but just know how to load and make ready.
I'm not saying your father didn't teach you what you needed to know, all I'm saying is, it's easy to dismiss something if you've never used or tried it. There's a reason why the AR has evolved out of triangular handguards, XM-177's, CAR-15's, ect.