Noveske build part 2

**JGifford** · 9 May 2016, 23:28

Originally Posted by Slippers

But alas, it does not have the improved cam pin track and additional exhaust ports found on the LMT enhanced carrier.

I'm still divided on that. It is different, yes. but is it better? Why/why not? It depends on the gas-system length, for one. I am leery of changing things considering that people have had issues with that change, with some configurations, as I understand it. Besides, what is it supposedly fixing? broken bolts, is what I am guessing.

I have yet to hear of ANYONE breaking one of Guy's bolts in his QPQ BCG. When I say "Guy's". I mean anyone who brands the same BCG as he's using. I know guys with well over 30K on them, run hard, and they are doing great. I know of guns with nearly 15K rounds of M855A1 on them. Running fine. I have posted all over the 'net "They are unbreakable!" because I know it's inflammatory, and the internet lives to piss in cheerios. So far, my cheerios remain edible.

**JGifford** · 9 May 2016, 23:32

Originally Posted by Joelski

Point taken. I've never dealt with them, but I've heard plenty of people say those guys are knobs.

Sadly, it's not "those guys". It's JUST ONE OF THEM. Chris Cerino, or however you spell his name. Shade, the other guy, last I dealt with him, was a polite fountain of knowledge on the QPQ process, and a great human being. I am very sad that Chris has taken over customer support. He should stay back in the stock room or on the range or something, and let Shade answer the phone. It really has hurt RCA,. IMO

**n4p226r** · 10 May 2016, 03:16

Does any factory built noveske even come with the RCA bolt? I haven't seen any. Maybe the NST rifles?

**Slippers** · 10 May 2016, 03:44

Originally Posted by JGifford

I'm still divided on that. It is different, yes. but is it better? Why/why not? It depends on the gas-system length, for one. I am leery of changing things considering that people have had issues with that change, with some configurations, as I understand it. Besides, what is it supposedly fixing? broken bolts, is what I am guessing.

I have yet to hear of ANYONE breaking one of Guy's bolts in his QPQ BCG. When I say "Guy's". I mean anyone who brands the same BCG as he's using. I know guys with well over 30K on them, run hard, and they are doing great. I know of guns with nearly 15K rounds of M855A1 on them. Running fine. I have posted all over the 'net "They are unbreakable!" because I know it's inflammatory, and the internet lives to piss in cheerios. So far, my cheerios remain edible.

The LMT e-carrier makes a big difference with suppressed use. Less gas blow back from the barrel, which in turn keeps the bolt group cleaner and also results in less gas to your face.

I don't know/care if it lengthens bolt life.

**The FNG** · 10 May 2016, 06:56

Originally Posted by wsaraceni

Does any factory built noveske even come with the RCA bolt? I haven't seen any. Maybe the NST rifles?

I believe their special 3-gun or team rifles do, yes.

**ROG** · 10 May 2016, 19:22

Originally Posted by wsaraceni

Does any factory built noveske even come with the RCA bolt? I haven't seen any. Maybe the NST rifles?

Dealers can have Noveske build with the RCA BCG. I actually had them build me a batch of Gen III 14.5" Skinny's with their RCA BCG.

**JGifford** · 11 May 2016, 01:41

Originally Posted by ROG

Dealers can have Noveske build with the RCA BCG. I actually had them build me a batch of Gen III 14.5" Skinny's with their RCA BCG.

But...do you want that? I had an RCA BCG, and the bolt was a poor fit in every other rifle I tried it in. If you chambered a round and tried to clear it, you almost had to mortar it. The bolt was in spec, per the company I sent it to for testing, but they said it was also all over the place. One spec may be minimum, the other maximum. I personally feel that unless it's an all-out precision rifle, headspacing to a specific bolt makes no sense. Put my headspace mid-spec, please, and I'll run whatever I want within reason, IMO

**JGifford** · 11 May 2016, 01:42

Originally Posted by Slippers

The LMT e-carrier makes a big difference with suppressed use. Less gas blow back from the barrel, which in turn keeps the bolt group cleaner and also results in less gas to your face.

I don't know/care if it lengthens bolt life.

I did some reading up on it. Seems LMT intended it for 14.5 and 16" carbine gas systems. With a properly gassed weapon, it may limit function un-suppressed. It would be interesting to T&E on my DDM4 though, as overgassed as that beast is.

**SINNER** · 11 May 2016, 04:57

Originally Posted by wsaraceni

Does any factory built noveske even come with the RCA bolt? I haven't seen any. Maybe the NST rifles?

Pretty sure that they used stock on hand many times in the past. My Recce rifle and a Rogue Hunter upper both came with Noveske marked RCA BCG's. A Recce a friend owns has a phosphate BCG. Both rifles were purchased from the same dealer a few months apart.

**Slippers** · 11 May 2016, 05:01

Originally Posted by JGifford

I did some reading up on it. Seems LMT intended it for 14.5 and 16" carbine gas systems. With a properly gassed weapon, it may limit function un-suppressed. It would be interesting to T&E on my DDM4 though, as overgassed as that beast is.

It works great on SBRs. Iraqgunz uses them on all his rifles, too. As far as we know, BCM correctly gases their barrels, and my 11.5 runs like a top both suppressed and unsuppressed, with the full array of 5.56 pressure ammo down to weak .223 Wolf/Tula steel.

**JGifford** · 11 May 2016, 19:04

Originally Posted by Slippers

It works great on SBRs. Iraqgunz uses them on all his rifles, too. As far as we know, BCM correctly gases their barrels, and my 11.5 runs like a top both suppressed and unsuppressed, with the full array of 5.56 pressure ammo down to weak .223 Wolf/Tula steel.

Same for a friend of mine's BCM.

**n4p226r** · 12 May 2016, 12:34

Originally Posted by Slippers

It works great on SBRs. Iraqgunz uses them on all his rifles, too. As far as we know, BCM correctly gases their barrels, and my 11.5 runs like a top both suppressed and unsuppressed, with the full array of 5.56 pressure ammo down to weak .223 Wolf/Tula steel.

Doesn't he use an a5 buffer on all his stuff too? I'd imagine the w
Two working together may yield different results as well

**Slippers** · 12 May 2016, 13:01

Originally Posted by wsaraceni

Doesn't he use an a5 buffer on all his stuff too? I'd imagine the w
Two working together may yield different results as well

Yes, he likes the A5H4 buffer paired with the LMT e-carrier and green spinco. I personally stick to A5H2 and colt spring.

**SINNER** · 12 May 2016, 14:15

Originally Posted by Slippers

Your ASR sounds like my last three Trifecta MAAD mounts. :)

I had so many issues I was ready to buy a Surefire can and move on. The ASR saved it. My Trifecta MAAD would be impossible to remove sometimes even if I didn't shoot the rifle on my 5.56 muzzle devices. On my .308 bolt gun, it would always loosen up after one shot. No matter how hard I cranked it on. Silencerco sent me three different Trifecta MAAD mounts, replaced several of my Trifecta muzzle devices, and finally swapped it all out for ASR parts.

Both styles are more maintence dependent than any other mounts I've used but both cause less shift than any I've tried other than direct thread. I'll take that trade. Nickel anti seize is a must on both styles IMO.

**DeviantLogic** · 12 May 2016, 16:20

I haven't had any issues with my Saker 762 / Trifecta and have about 1000 rounds through it (using on both AR & 308 bolt gun), but I've heard of other people having the same problems as Slippers. Have a Saker 556 on order...hopefully it won't have any issues. SilencerCo's customer service has been awesome to deal with...so not too worried about it.

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