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    Second paint job didn't like the first...

    Nothing special just what was gonna be my gateway into the NFA game but it just sits, only shot like 5 rounds thru it when a guy I know brought over his sparrow to show off how quiet it was..lol..still undecided in selling it or what as it just sits, unless everyone wants to chip in for a can..lol..anyways..




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    Quote Originally Posted by Former11B View Post
    Ron Allen who formerly owned Ops Inc operated out of California. Despite .gov contracts (and SureFire operating like mad in CA), I think he ran into issues maintaining a license to manufacture in California...the State would no longer allow him to with no real explanation. I'm not sure what prompted the new name, but he packed up and went to NV and started churning them out again under the Allen Engineering name.

    There are still a few Ops Inc cans NIB out there if you want to complete a 100% accurate MK12 clone but they're hard to find. Basically small time dealers that used to carry Ops will come out with one from the dark recesses of a safe every so often.
    Ron never owned OP's Inc. He was subcontracted to make certain suppressors for them. California stopped allowing form 3 transfers out of state so Ron moved his suppresor manufacturing out of state. His main location is still Brown's Valley CA.

    Quote Originally Posted by mustangfreek View Post
    Second paint job didn't like the first...

    Nothing special just what was gonna be my gateway into the NFA game but it just sits, only shot like 5 rounds thru it when a guy I know brought over his sparrow to show off how quiet it was..lol..still undecided in selling it or what as it just sits, unless everyone wants to chip in for a can..lol..anyways..



    I really like that paint job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SINNER View Post
    Ron never owned OP's Inc. He was subcontracted to make certain suppressors for them. California stopped allowing form 3 transfers out of state so Ron moved his suppresor manufacturing out of state. His main location is still Brown's Valley CA.

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    From what I read, they just stopped allowing Ops Inc to transfer cans out of CA. Surefire still did (and still does?) when he was prohibited, being a main contention.

    Here's an e-mail from OPS dated 12/2013:

    "Sorry for the delay. We have been going through hoops with the ATF with the A&D book, production variance, CA DOJ, and a very confused CA ATF branch. Our lawyers do not know what exactly their end game is, we have complied with every request, had guns taken and then returned later, and fought off every threat they have given to the point that they have nothing left to throw at us. They have held every one of our form 3's but have approved 2 form 5's months after our form 3's were submitted. I honestly have no answer on the time frame because they keep dragging this out and looking for new charges against us that will still not stick. It has been going on since February and it's getting real old at this point. Sorry I cannot get any info about our form 3's, I have a few dealers asking me the same questions and I just don't have the answers at this time. We're trying to figure out where the witch hunt is going and why we're being singled out. They claim that we cannot manufacture suppressors in CA for anyone other than LE and Government. We asked how Surefire has been doing it this whole time along with a few other manufacturers and they haven't answered our emails or phone calls. Other DOJ agents haven't heard this law that apparently has been in effect for over 10 years according to the CA DOJ. Like I said, they keep throwing stones at us and drag out anything they try to have against us for months before they give up and get something new. I don't know of any dealers that have anything in stock other than possibly Duncans guns in North Carolina. I understand if you have to go a different direction, if that is the case I apologize for not being able to get you set in a reasonable time frame. If something new comes up I'll let you know.
    Regards,
    Daniel "

    After researching it, I see Ops is owned by Phil Seeburger, but Ron is the most frequently associated with the company whenever I read about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Former11B View Post
    Awesome job.


    If you decide to sell it, let me know! I will definitely pick it up if I can distract the wife
    Thanks!!

    You have some nice painted rifles and I thought you might like it

    Quote Originally Posted by SINNER View Post

    I really like that paint job.
    Thanks Bud..I like it also and I said something about selling it and the oldest kid said No dad..lol

    I enjoy painting/modding things as it comes from years of wrenching on cars/trucks..

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