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Thread: "Stock" On An AR Pistol?
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25 December 2014, 18:24 #16
if you followed along
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I was responding to the negative comments regarding the CAA cheek weld and was seeking reasons as to why. The CAA cheek weld was involved in the topic of discussion as adding a cheek weld or cut down stock to an AR buffer tube for pistol use.
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8 January 2015, 04:49 #17New Member
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No. But looks good and innovative idea!
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8 January 2015, 06:06 #18
I'm going to go against the grain here. The ATF doesn't make law, it provides letters that explains how one employee of the ATF currently interprets the law and will therefore guide how the agency may chose to enforce the existing laws. The ATF has clearly put out letters that won't hold up in court.
The law in question is whether or not that modification would make the pistol into a rifle under this definition:
The term “rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder
The problem is the ATF has its share of vindictive freedom-hating politically motivated idiots so they actually don't care too much what the law says and could ruin your life even if you ultimately are vindicated in a court of law.
So my response to your question is, "Yes, that is perfectly legal, but the ATF may still choose to go after you anyway if by some small chance you have an encounter with them or some other self proclaimed NFA-know-it-all so be very careful if you go down that path"
Oh, did I mention I'm not a lawyer and you should never take legal advice (even from lawyers) on an internet forum?
Personally, I'm considering designs for a "chest stock" to turn AR pistols into firearms "intended to be fired from the chest" since the NFA doesn't regulate those. That is slightly less offensive and should provide a more stable shooting platform than the "pelvic stock" portrayed in some images currently floating around the internet.
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8 January 2015, 06:29 #19
I decided to just bite the bullet and get the Thordsen, but thank you. I do agree that it would not make it something designed to be fired from the shoulder. It'd be awesome if I could get a letter that said that, because then you could have a decent looking buffer cover, and a decent cheek weld, for less than I paid for the Thordsen/CAA. Also, it would most likely be stronger. I have considered mortaring it just to check to see if the Thordsen/CAA could handle it... But I don't want to take the chance on breaking it quite yet.
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8 January 2015, 06:53 #20Contributing Member
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I won't be mortaring my Thordsen - I think the open space behind the RE will immediately collapse and the saddle block will tear loose.
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8 January 2015, 07:59 #21
That's what I was thinking as well.
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