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Thread: Placed my order today...
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22 May 2015, 14:00 #16
Oops, meant to add...While it wasn't my first sale with Silencer Shop, yesterday, I, too, put in an order, but did it on the phone just due to some questions I had. Good people, and I'd say at least 50% of the time of my transaction was just shooting the breeze with my salesman who was prior aviation LE/HEMS and we were sharing some sea-stories. Definitely makes me want to swing by and see the place if I'm ever in Austin.
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22 May 2015, 17:45 #17
Here is another question for you... as I am reloading whenever time permits... Do you have to tailor your load at all when shooting suppressed to maintain extreme accuracy? Assume I am using an adjustable gas block... (which I will get in the next month or so)...
I have my loads now at 24.3 grains but I am wondering if I am going to need to re-calibrate them later on for a somewhat different shooting system (IE add suppressor) that might or might not alter the harmonics. I understand it might have a POI shift but I mean altering the actual load itself?
If the answer is yes I won't load up 2000 rounds as planned. I will just do them in batches of a few hundred at a time. If it doesn't really matter I will continue on with my 2000 round goal.
I have a lot of questions still but all I know is my suppressor is on the way :) I am excited...
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23 May 2015, 07:56 #18
Thank you! I fear you are correct :) I am already making plans...
Now my tag line that Uwone gave me can become official. LOL
I think I made a great choice myself :) I don't have it yet, and I've never shot one (of these), but based on reports all over including silencer shop and others... I think I done did good. I am confident in my choice.
I love watching military videos and stuff like that... I am just kind of curious about 'down range' just because. If you're a pig by the time you hear the snap it's all done for. LOL What tends to happen is after the first shot though the rest can scatter in all directions but they will regroup a few minutes later. If pig hunting I've heard you can get more than one shot off and as long as they don't see you you're good.
As for the lateral sound... that to me would answer a lot of in general questions. No one has ever complained about me shooting but then again I try to keep my shooting times to when it will be the least intrusive. I am hoping this will allow me to shoot more and at varied times even. Everyone out here shoots but I am still wanting to be polite.
For a first time suppressor buyer I think something like the 100 yard test I mentioned above would answer a whole lot of questions as to 'why' suppress a rifle, and it's not to be a ninja LOL Suppressors really do have a place in the world. I am 3/4 of the way inclined to write my Congressman and Senators and start a campaign about how the NFA laws are stupid and unnecessary... whether it will help or not, I don't know.
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23 May 2015, 16:59 #19
I wouldn't load a ton of ammo yet. Odds are the only thing that will change is your POI but just to be on the safe side, load small batches until you confirm accuracy with the can. Would beat the heck out of pulling and possibly damaging $600 worth of bullets and countless hours of time.
I personally don't have dual loads for suppressed/unsuppressed but I definitely make note of POI shift. It's never drastic (1/2" down and right at 100yds e.g.) but that does make a difference further out
And as far as helping you pick the can or offering advice....anytime my friend, any time.
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9 July 2015, 12:08 #20
Read some more information from one of the owners of Griffin Armament about the update/improvement to the Recce line:
"The Mod 2 is a great can. The new revision just features some useful attributes that we are bringing to the line. The suppressors have a chassis- a bullet machined single piece of 17-4SS- this makes them incredibly strong- stronger than anything ever put on the market. This is like having a heat treated 718 inconel tube on the suppressor- because 17-4 is 3 times as strong as 316, and twice as strong as 718 in the cold reduced sheet. These are attributes unavailable in tube materials. There is no 17-4 seamless tube on the market, there is no seamless 718 inconel tube I'm aware of. Tube relies on the material to be soft, moderately weak, and form-able so it is a compromised concept from the beginning. The older unit was also made from billet 17-4SS but was welded into monolithic structure like the SIG suppressor's assembly of their cast baffles. The use of the "chassis" as we're calling it, reduces the integrity focused mechanical reliance on welds. Welds and castings cause undesirable loss of grain structure control. Welds are never realistically as strong as billet material which is 100% contiguously joined with controlled material grain structure aligned in the appropriate direction. Reducing that critical weld reliance especially in hot and high pressure areas is in my opinion theoretically superior. The flash suppressor integrated into the front cap is a signature reduction feature. Sound performance will be similar to the Mod 2. We've built cans a lot of different ways and I prefer this method.
On the negative side it requires about 50% more bar stock to make a suppressor this way- more time, and more machining. A 9" RSTA requires about 15.5" of bar stock (not counting the included 4.2" muzzle device) with 85% material removal for manufacturing.
We've done some really punishing things to pre-production units with no visible wear. That's important. A lot of companies brag on mechanically staying together while systems are eroded and cored out internally or damaged in ways deleting sound performance that no owner would be happy about. What really impressed us was the ability to do things that should typically cause irreparable wear or harm and pull through without expected visible damage."
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9 July 2015, 16:48 #21