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Thread: ATF-41P
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4 January 2016, 21:34 #46
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4 January 2016, 21:38 #47
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4 January 2016, 21:41 #48
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4 January 2016, 21:47 #49
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4 January 2016, 21:52 #50
https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/
It will not take effect until 180 days after publication in the Federal Registry so there is still time to purchase items under the existing rules.
I may be wrong but I think this can be appealed.
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4 January 2016, 22:44 #51
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4 January 2016, 23:36 #52
Well, ATFonline is all borked up. This is what happens when you lollygag.
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5 January 2016, 00:02 #53
So my head hurts and want a few nfa items..so filing as a individual or with a trust is there any benefits to either? Or one better, I'm assuming a trust is a good idea.
I inquired last summer and our local sheriff would sign it, that was my local PD as I'm unincorporated if it means anything.
So 180 days and then?
But I still need a winning lottery ticket, wish dealers would do payments.. Lol
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5 January 2016, 00:03 #54
I did a form 1 earlier today without a problem. Tonight, no go after 90 minutes if trying. Will try another form 1 again tomorrow.
I'm sure there are other scenarios, but the only indee de where one can get an NFA item without background check would be acquiring a firearm through private sale and then form 1 as a trust/Corp. Is this the only situation the president is referring to? All my form 1s originated through FFL purchases with BG check.
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5 January 2016, 07:43 #55
Okay, so can someone help out this simpleton?
I was (and still am) planning on getting a Trust this month. I was planning on taking my time to pick up a Griffin Optimus, now I guess I need to light a fire under my ass a little.
SO, lets just say I get my trust at the end of the month. I'll then have nearly five months to get the suppressor and file before this takes affect.
IF I miss this window and I purchase AFTER this date, I will also need to notify CLEO?'Ground Defense 1, Blade Defense 1, Defensive Pistol 1 & 2, Aliance Shoot House, When Things Go Bad, YSINTG, Carbine 1, DART Medical, NRA Range Safety Officer
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5 January 2016, 08:12 #56
From what I gather (and I am probably wrong) if you file as a trust each person on the trust will be required to provide finger prints and photos submitted with each form for each purchase. No CLEO signature required but you will have to notify him of the filing.
If you file as a individual it's the same as before. Some of the language in the documents I read are misleading. In some places it says no CLEO signature and others here say you still need CLEO signature. You will have to do finger prints and photos in either case.
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5 January 2016, 08:18 #57Ground Defense 1, Blade Defense 1, Defensive Pistol 1 & 2, Aliance Shoot House, When Things Go Bad, YSINTG, Carbine 1, DART Medical, NRA Range Safety Officer
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5 January 2016, 08:20 #58
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5 January 2016, 08:46 #59
Everything you need to know: https://nlolegal.wordpress.com/2016/...erly-rule-41p/
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5 January 2016, 12:56 #60
^Awesome, informative link. Thanks for finding that.
https://nlolegal.wordpress.com/2016/...erly-rule-41p/ Although certainly not confirmed, the wording of the rule appears to raise a question as to the ability to appoint a Special Trustee who may have authority to possess/transport an NFA weapon, but not the power to direct the management and policies of the trust. This may be a potential avenue to add someone to a trust without having them considered a “Responsible Person” under the new rule. Meaning, this could potentially be a way to exempt trustees from the new requirements. This does not appear to be the intent of the ATF in drafting the rule, but the wording of the rule certainly raises the question. We will update this post once we receive confirmation from the ATF regarding this issue.
The whole reason I put the members I did on my Trust is so they can use/possess my NFA items. I see no other reason to put someone on my Trust. Am I missing something?