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4 October 2015, 19:01 #31
Yea I love it. I actually shoot it a little better then the 26 but I got medium to small hands.
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6 October 2015, 17:20 #32Member
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11 October 2015, 02:26 #33
Thanks fellas.
Got a Glock - connector and put that in with a Zev extra power trigger spring.Also a quick "flitz" polish and back together. Feels a little better in the pre travel, the break is cleaner and a little lighter..maybe a hair..It still bugs me..lol...Miss my old apex'd m&p's...
The Apex setup is on the list IF i keep this thing..I'll shoot it some and go from there, looking for a good kydex holster still....
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27 October 2015, 16:59 #34Member
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Just got my ssvi trigger I'll be shooting it this weekend. And compare it to my factory trigger
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29 October 2015, 13:48 #36Member
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So far I'm really excited about this trigger. It's clean crisp shorter feeling reset still very tactile feeling. Can't wait to get 500 to 1000 rounds through with it on and make some more observations. So far I'm impressed. I'll have to meet up with others and try some other after market triggers to get a really
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26 December 2015, 11:21 #37LEO / MIL
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glock talk..
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27 December 2015, 01:20 #38
All my Glocks (Gen 2 and Gen 3) have bone stock factory triggers (standard 5# connector and trigger spring) with two exceptions: 1.) My Glock 19s have had the serrated triggers replaced with the smooth faced Glock factory triggers from the G17 (which doesn't change the pull or break, just gets rid of the annoying-to-me serrated trigger face) and 2.) My G42 (which out of the box had the worst trigger pull of any Glock i've ever fired) has a Ghost 3.5# connector. Call me crazy, but i actually like the Gen 2 and Gen 3 Glock triggers. Once you put some rounds through them, they break in and smooth out really nice i've found.
I played around with the minus connector and various trigger spring combinations for a while, and found the minus connector felt best to me with an NY1 trigger spring. I don't have a trigger pull gauge, but my calibrated Mk 1 Trigger Finger thought that combination felt ever so slightly heavier than the well broken-in stock trigger parts they replaced, but had a very smooth, linear take-up with a rolling break. I actually liked it quite a bit, but factory minus connectors were vaporware at the time so i put it back to stock to keep all my Glock triggers the same.
As for the Gen 4 guns, i've read that Glock revised the trigger bar geometry compared to the Gen 3 guns, and also include a "dot" connector with them (supposedly something between the standard and minus connectors). I've only dry fired a Gen 4 gun, and didn't care for the trigger. By all accounts, replacing the trigger bar in a Gen 4 gun with the Gen 3 trigger bar, and the dot connector with the standard connector will bring the trigger back to the familiar feel of the earlier generation guns. I've been considering a Gen 4 G19 as a suppressor host, and i've got spare trigger parts ready to install.
My only real complaint with factory Glock triggers is the little trigger safety nub can irritate my trigger finger when i'm not shooting with gloves. The Apex trigger looks like a nice fix, and i may try one out. Only problem would be if i liked it, i'd have to buy four more. Which sucks, because at almost $100 a piece, that's one fifth the price of the gun. Add in the cost of decent sights, and the budget Glock is now in Sig and HK territory, price wise. Which is crazy to me, because it's a Glock lol."It's time to start slapping people." - George Carlin
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27 December 2015, 09:08 #39As for the Gen 4 guns, i've read that Glock revised the trigger bar geometry compared to the Gen 3 guns, and also include a "dot" connector with them (supposedly something between the standard and minus connectors). I've only dry fired a Gen 4 gun, and didn't care for the trigger. By all accounts, replacing the trigger bar in a Gen 4 gun with the Gen 3 trigger bar, and the dot connector with the standard connector will bring the trigger back to the familiar feel of the earlier generation guns. I've been considering a Gen 4 G19 as a suppressor host, and i've got spare trigger parts ready to install.
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27 December 2015, 13:41 #40
I don't like my stock trigger in my gen 4 17...tried some zev springs and a polish job..little better....ordered a gem 3 trigger and minus connector to try next..
Would like to try an apex or something
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27 December 2015, 16:20 #41
Glock armorers are fanatical about not modifying Glocks. For years, I ignored them, and having tried everything in the book, I've had enough failures to (almost) agree with them. Hard core mods should be for comp/fun guns only, not SD. There's always a but, though, and this is what I've found that greatly improves the stock trigger without making it failure prone.
1. Get the dremel and felt out and do the polish job. YouTube must have 500 video's on how to do this. I use a little Flitz and a small felt wheel.
2. Get a quality 3.5 connector. Unless you are really good with a small diamond file, stay away from the Ghost and others that you have to set the angle yourself with. Also, polish the connector, I do this even if it looks "mirror" smooth.
3. 3 and 4lb. striker springs are too light for SD, you risk light primer strikes, and I've experienced this myself. 6lb. is stock and too much. You have to google this, because it doesn't show up on their websites, but get your hand on a few 5lb. springs. Believe it or not, the extra 1lb. makes a big difference in feel. Buy extra's, they are cheap but hard to come by sometimes.
4. Change the stock 3lb. trigger spring for a 4lb. trigger spring. Trust me, it works.
5. Do not use the Titanium trigger safety on a Carry gun. I've seen several of these fail, at least 3. They make little or no difference unless you're installing a total comp trigger kit. Polish the stock one that came with your gun.
I do not use any of the commercially available trigger stops. I've had two or three break over the years. Or the set (adjustment) screw back out, or the whole unit crack. I would never, ever trust my life to one, although they do make a nice trigger, I feel these should ONLY be competition additions.
All of this gives you a much nicer, smoother and lighter trigger with a crisper break, not a highly modified comp trigger with a very short pull, light and crisp with a instant stop with minimal overtravel, but it will give you a much improved trigger that, if you do this and as you get into the project, will instill confidence that the gun goes bang when the bad guy makes it mandatory.
I'm sure many, many others have their own ideas. My combo comes from several years of trying about everything to achieve a "1911" and reliable trigger, and failing often, or witnessing others guns failing. Coincidently, I have a new in box gen3 G19, and the parts listed above sitting on my work bench, waiting to get my act together and get this project done. It takes 1 to 2 hours, depending on your skill level. If you have 10 thumbs, get a buddy to help you. You'll learn how easy Glocks are to work on. Good luck.
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27 December 2015, 16:23 #42
My Glocks get night sights, extra mags and a cheap holster. I'm perfectly happy with the stock trigger. To me a Glock is a tool and should be treated as such. To each his own ...
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27 December 2015, 16:38 #43
I have an Apex FSS in my .45 and .40. Just got a new 9mm FS, and while the trigger really isn't that bad, as compared to what the triggers were like in my FS .45 and 40's. Still going to order a kit for the 9mm though. I don't think anyone can match the feel and performance of these (FSS) triggers in any "plastic" gun, and still be reliable enough for SD carry. Absolutely love them.
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27 December 2015, 19:25 #44
I don't necessarily think the factory Gen 4 trigger is a bad trigger. It's just different enough that i prefer the feel of the Gen 2/3 triggers. I love the factory beavertail backstrap on the Gen 4 guns (i hate slide bite), so i want to get one. And when i do, it'll get Gen 3 trigger parts. My experience with Glock triggers is much the same as yours: a few thousand rounds of break in does wonders to smooth things out and get everything broken in.
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27 December 2015, 19:38 #45
I don't mess with springs in Glocks, especially striker springs, unless it's a Glock spring (such as the NY1 trigger spring). Since you've got a Gen 3 trigger bar coming, i'd get a standard connector to try with it in conjunction with the standard trigger spring. I'd also suggest getting a NY1 trigger spring to try with the minus connector and Gen 3 trigger bar. The NY1 spring and standard connector is stupid heavy.
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