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Thread: Forward Controls SBCG
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4 August 2017, 07:45 #1
Forward Controls SBCG
As many of you know, Wiley Arms in Arlington, TX makes most, and soon all of our parts for us. We've never pretended to make anything in house, and always disclosed the shops that make our components for us. We've settled on Wiley Arms, because they're an absolute joy to work with, they can hold the tolerances we demand, and they never cut corners.
This year alone, we've introduced three new products: 6315, EMR-A, and ABC/R v2, 7.62mm, all of which are made by Wiley Arms for Forward Controls.
The fourth product we're working on is in the main based on Wiley Arms' own bolt carrier, with Forward Controls designed changes, we're receiving Ned Christiansen and Sionics support in the effort.
As to what SBCG means, I'll say it's just a logical and practical change, but not what the S stands for yet, you know I'm a tease It will be properly staked, we're using considerable resources to do just that one part.
I refuse to use "enhanced" in any of our products going forward. Our early products do have that word (EMR, EMR-C), and since the ambi mag release is in the mag release product family, it inherited the E in it namesake EMR-A. How does one define "enhanced"? It can be so insignificant in results as to be completely negligible and immaterial, and doesn't describe what the the "enhanced" product actually enhances.
No ETA at the moment, as we're in very early stages of the project. As always, we will post first look pics and far more detailed info here first.Last edited by Duffy; 4 August 2017 at 07:53.
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4 August 2017, 08:00 #2
Sounds like I'll be getting a BCG in the future!
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4 August 2017, 08:39 #3
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4 August 2017, 09:32 #4
God dammit and I had just settled on a Cryptic Coatings LW BCG...
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4 August 2017, 10:03 #5
Come on ghost, I have revealed quite a bit about it already
The changes we'll be making on the carrier are the carrier key screws (not our own design), staking will be done by Sionics, and one last part that's really quite minor. Wiley Arms BCG is out there for all to see, ours will look very much like it, though without the WILEY engraving, it'll have a tiny Cygnus logo instead.Last edited by Duffy; 4 August 2017 at 11:31.
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4 August 2017, 11:01 #6
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4 August 2017, 11:26 #7
The carrier is mostly like that, save for the S part in the SBCG. It will have a very small Cygnus logo in place of the engraved WILEY, but that's just cosmetic and didn't get a lot of attention, I actually went out of my way to make the logo inconspicuous and small, we're selling a product, not our logo.
The bolt will be different, as are the gas key screws.
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4 August 2017, 11:36 #8
So will this FCD BCG be slid into a future FCD Upper?
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4 August 2017, 11:46 #9
It can be
The upper too is based on Wiley Arms' own upper, with couple of minor changes, all practical, none cosmetic. Well it will have a tiny Cygnus logo somewhere, but I'll make it hard to find and inconspicuous as always
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4 August 2017, 12:27 #10
I'll start saving, can't wait to see this.
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4 August 2017, 13:38 #11
It can't be "SUPER"; that'd be Geissele.
And Gost is right, for a self-proclaimed cagey fellow, you leak like an 80 year-old woman at the comedy club.There's no "Team" in F**K YOU!
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4 August 2017, 14:01 #12
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4 August 2017, 15:42 #13LEO / MIL
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Swan BCG?
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4 August 2017, 16:39 #14
You're going to use Ned's new gas key screws, I suspect.
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4 August 2017, 19:46 #15
Yep we'll be using Ned's gas key screws. I have to downplay the S part in the SBCG, it's really a minor change that most people won't care about. The most important part is the gas key stacking, and the use of Ned's screws to facilitate that.
We are not making claims of how it's enhanced in any way, just that it'll be very reliable. The S part of its namesake is quite unimportant.
It's not swan or super