Are you talking about the 203g from Palmetto Bullets/BlackoutBrass.com? reddish hi-tek powder coated? I bought some of those for my 300blk and for the life of me I cannot get them to cycle right. I get scrapes on the bullets and they do not go 100% into battery. I've screwed around with them so much, I'm done with them. I thought of trying them in my .308 AR but I got someone on 300blktalk that may take them off my hands. If he does, I'm jumping on it to try and get some of my $$ back. I'm using the Hornady 150g FMJ and M80 pulls for my cheaper plinking stuff. I wanted the 203's for cheap sub plinking but oh well.. I'd rather have the reliability than the cheapness. There are some other alternatives coming soon... blackoutbullets has a 220g jacketed bullet for about .27¢ each and Highborn Ourdoors has a 200g coming soon (so they say) but no cost yet. I have 200 of the blackoutbullets 220g coming to try.