SMOS Arms MLOK Handguard - NOW WITH SPECIAL WEVO MEMBERS BUY ON UPPER/ LOWER/ RAIL FROM SMOS

[Screwdriver]

Rogue Defense

[fledge]

Good article highlighting SMOS.

Our own UW makes an appearance.

http://www.gunsandtactics.com/stubborn-mule-outdoor-supply-quintessential-oregonian-quality

[EO3]

Good article highlighting SMOS.

Our own UW makes an appearance.

http://www.gunsandtactics.com/stubborn-mule-outdoor-supply-quintessential-oregonian-quality
Thanks for the link!

"CT: It is no secret that SMOS OEM’s for some other great companies out there. How did those partnerships begin, and how are you able to keep up with the demand?

SMOS: Sorry bro."

LOL [:D]

[fledge]

"Dang." Haha

Funny the interviewer chose to include that question/response in the final copy.

[Battle Cock]

"Dang." Haha

Funny the interviewer chose to include that question/response in the final copy.

He took that rejection far better than most guys asking for stippling secrets. I always say feel free to ask, but be willing to accept the answer you get.

[alamo5000]

Good article highlighting SMOS.

Our own UW makes an appearance.

http://www.gunsandtactics.com/stubborn-mule-outdoor-supply-quintessential-oregonian-quality

Good article!

I have had some minimal interaction with Chris Tran on facebook and I can already tell that I like the guy. He seems to me to be cool as hell.

I don't know him personally or anything but his demeanor and professionalism towards someone who he had no idea who I was was very much appreciated. Just in those few short interactions he's earned respect from me.

[EO3]

I'll take about 12 of these [BD]
http://imgur.com/EUTK0OY

[UWone77]

I'll take about 12 of these [BD]
http://imgur.com/EUTK0OY

I'd rather have these...

944

[EO3]

I'd rather have these...

944
You buy 12 of those, I'll buy 12 Raptors, and then we can trade half and half [:D]

[fledge]

Oh my word.

[jataylor]

Must... Have.... FSP cutout rail....

JT

[UWone77]

Oh my word.

Indeed.

Deadwing... we need those Switchblock cutouts!!!

[UWone77]

For all those with GFY or SM-15 Receiver sets.

Any interest in maybe a run of SMOS engraved Raptors with an SMOS engraved/Logo BCG?

Just putting some feelers out there.

[EO3]

For all those with GFY or SM-15 Receiver sets.

Any interest in maybe a run of SMOS engraved Raptors with an SMOS engraved/Logo BCG?

Just putting some feelers out there.

Wellllll DUH! Who would the BCG's be coming from? IIRC, they put Azimuth's in their builds right now, no?

[jataylor]

For all those with GFY or SM-15 Receiver sets.

Any interest in maybe a run of SMOS engraved Raptors with an SMOS engraved/Logo BCG?

Just putting some feelers out there.
I think I might need a CH. With identical sized handles of course! Since theres no FA.

JT

[fledge]

I'd do a SMOS raptor and BCG. But ask them if they can do the freedom bone style! That would be exceptional. Griffon already has the branded freedom bone and I see a few other sites are carrying them now too.

[Battle Cock]

I think I might need a CH. With identical sized handles of course! Since theres no FA.

JT

Oooooh. This. I'm definitely in if the SMOS raptor has same size handles.

[UWone77]

Wellllll DUH! Who would the BCG's be coming from? IIRC, they put Azimuth's in their builds right now, no?

Good question, I think like you said they are using Azimuth's, so getting it engraved should be no problem.

I think I need at least 2 sets...

I will ask about same size latches.

[EO3]

Good question, I think like you said they are using Azimuth's, so getting it engraved should be no problem.

I think I need at least 2 sets...

I will ask about same size latches.

Cool. Are the Azimuth BCGs melonited or black nitrided? Don't know if I want to buy a BCG that doesn't have a super special coating [BD] But really... I do like having an easy-to-clean BCG. That's my main affinity with NiB/Nitrided/Chromed/Etc BCGs. You know... a Fathom BCG lasered with the SMOS logo...... [pop]

[Deadwing]

Cool. Are the Azimuth BCGs melonited or black nitrided? Don't know if I want to buy a BCG that doesn't have a super special coating [BD] But really... I do like having an easy-to-clean BCG. That's my main affinity with NiB/Nitrided/Chromed/Etc BCGs. You know... a Fathom BCG lasered with the SMOS logo...... [pop]

Melonite is just a trade name for salt bath nitrocarburizing, i.e. Black Nitride (also a trade name). Glock's Tenifer, HK's Hostile Environment finish, et. al. are all basically the same thing.

Regardless of what it's called, it makes a great surface treatment for firearm parts.

[Josh S.]

I think I'm going to stick with a NiB BCG for the SMOS build, but count me in for a SMOS Raptor! The Freedom Bone style would be awesome but I'll take what I can get.

[UWone77]

I thought I would be posting my GFY rifle by now, but ran into a snafu with my barrel. The chamber was too tight, and I got it pinned with a gas block before I realized the barrel had to go back. DOH!

As some have mentioned, I noticed my SMOS upper and lower are super tight, even with BAD EPS Pins.

[fledge]

When I bought my first SM upper back in July, Chris said, "Expect the fit to be tight and the take down pins to start our tight as well. These things loosen over time and our goal was to create long lasting parts for the AR 15."

I assume the GFY uppers are designed with similar tolerances. FWIW.

[jataylor]

My pins are snug too but slowly loosening up as I move them.

JT

[EO3]

My SM15 upper was EXTREMELY tight on my POF lower. I had to use something to punch them out every time. I probably only took the pins out between 20-30 times, so maybe I just didn't punch them out enough times for them to loosen up.

[UWone77]

Chris was nice enough to confirm that the Quad Rail sneak peak would indeed be compatible with switchblocks and front sights. I plan on getting one to replace a Noveske/SWS rail that ends at my SB on an upper.

[fledge]

Awesome to hear. I have a 6 year old BCM upper that I've thought of selling. But this rail with an added switchblock would give it new life.

[UWone77]

SMOS laser engraved Raptors are live:

http://www.smosarms.com/collections/parts-and-accessories/products/axts-ambidextrous-raptor-charging-handle

[Pyzik]

Was/is there a WEVO price for only a lower?

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[Battle Cock]

SMOS laser engraved Raptors are live:

http://www.smosarms.com/collections/parts-and-accessories/products/axts-ambidextrous-raptor-charging-handle

Any chance of getting the same size latches on both sides?

[jataylor]

Any chance of getting the same size latches on both sides?
This and im all over it.

JT

[fledge]

Same size latches. Freedom bone style. All it needs is a SMOS logo.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b556/fledge2000/Misc/0D9C6962-E401-4A3C-8FA0-E3476D96D245.png_zpstbfa8v8k.jpeg (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/fledge2000/media/Misc/0D9C6962-E401-4A3C-8FA0-E3476D96D245.png_zpstbfa8v8k.jpeg.html)

[Sak007]

Does the freedom bone work as advertised or gimmick ?

[UWone77]

Does the freedom bone work as advertised or gimmick ?

I've had limited time with my EraThr3 version. I don't really notice that much of a difference. There are only so many places the gas can go.

[UWone77]

If anyone's interested, they're going to run 20 BCG's with laser engraved logos next week.

[Dstrbdmedic167]

If anyone's interested, they're going to run 20 BCG's with laser engraved logos next week.

Stahhhhhhppppp

[voodoo_man]

If anyone's interested, they're going to run 20 BCG's with laser engraved logos next week.

I hate you.

Not like "ohhh hate that dude" type of way, but in a really serious and wallet punching way.

[SINNER]

But do you hate him as much as Haley?

[EO3]

If anyone's interested, they're going to run 20 BCG's with laser engraved logos next week.

Will these be their Azimuth BCG's? I'm definitely interested. Already have the engraved Raptor... might as well get the BCG too [BD]

[fledge]

If Azimuth, count me in.

[Pyzik]

:(

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[BoilerUp]

If anyone's interested, they're going to run 20 BCG's with laser engraved logos next week.

Does that make it Gucci?

[Josh S.]

Does that make it Gucci?

Only if the BCG is shiny.

[UWone77]

Does that make it Gucci?

Sadly No. No coating. I'm already screwed. I don't have triangular handguards or a pencil barrel.

[EO3]

Sadly No. No coating. I'm already screwed. I don't have triangular handguards or a pencil barrel.

I asked Chris about their Azimuth BCGs and he told me they are Black Nitrided. Can you confirm with him, UW? I'd prefer black nitride or NiB, as I like the ease of cleaning. Plus... This build is already blinded out... Might as well top it off with a Gucci BCG!

[Pyzik]

I REALLY need to sell something to buy a damn barrel.



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[UWone77]

I asked Chris about their Azimuth BCGs and he told me they are Black Nitrided. Can you confirm with him, UW? I'd prefer black nitride or NiB, as I like the ease of cleaning. Plus... This build is already blinded out... Might as well top it off with a Gucci BCG!

I'll wait till he decides to do it first. You know how next week usually turns into next month. [BD]

[EO3]

I'll wait till he decides to do it first. You know how next week usually turns into next month. [BD]

Hahaha, no doubt! If they're Nitrided, count me in. If not, we'll see what my wallet thinks [:D]

[EO3]

Got the lower done - Other half should be done next week!
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/EO3actual/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-13%20at%209.58.10%20PM_zpsae1wb45a.png

[Josh S.]

Looks great! Can't wait to see this one finished.

[Pyzik]

FINALLY have a barrel coming. Thanks James.
Not a high end barrel but it'll do for now. At least it'll get the gun together and functioning!

[EO3]

Almost there!!!
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/EO3actual/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvicneo9i.jpeg

[jataylor]

Almost there!!!
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/EO3actual/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvicneo9i.jpeg
Looks good!!

JT

[Mecha_Arms]

If anyone's interested, they're going to run 20 BCG's with laser engraved logos next week.

I might be interested in one of those...

[Josh S.]

Can anyone shed some light as to whether the SMOS quad rails will be available in standard configurations, or if they will all have FSB cutouts? I'm planning on trading my 13.7" MLOK for a 9" MLOK unless I can get a standard 9" quad rail.

[n4p226r]

I'd rather have these...

944

How exactly do you install these?

[Deadwing]

Indeed.

Deadwing... we need those Switchblock cutouts!!!

I don't know how i missed this... But yes! I've been wanting another Switchblock equipped upper or three and can't bring myself to lay out the cash on a factory Noveske upper.


How exactly do you install these?

My guess would be very carefully. [BD]

[n4p226r]

My guess would be very carefully. [BD]

Yes. Most likely.

But in all seriousness. They look like one piece rails. I can't figure it out

[UWone77]

Yes. Most likely.

But in all seriousness. They look like one piece rails. I can't figure it out

The front piece of top rail is removable. You can leave it off for a FSB, or put it on if you have a switchblock.

[Deadwing]

The front piece of top rail is removable. You can leave it off for a FSB, or put it on if you have a switchblock.

That I did not know. I figured it was two different rails: one to accommodate FSP and another for Switchblocks. Personally, I'd rather it be the front piece of the bottom rail that was removable so driving gas block pins would be a much simpler task.

[n4p226r]

The front piece of top rail is removable. You can leave it off for a FSB, or put it on if you have a switchblock.

Ok. That's what I thought. It just didn't seem like it will fit over a fsp

[arrigoni]

stupid question - are the 11 and 1 o'clock slots M-Lok compatible or just the 3,6, & 9?

[alamo5000]

stupid question - are the 11 and 1 o'clock slots M-Lok compatible or just the 3,6, & 9?

I don't own one of these but I can tell just from the pics it's 3,6, and 9 only.

[nova_boss]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--_Fny1_Y6V8/V5prr4UGU7I/AAAAAAAAc5E/5AAcBye_8MY-mDy2IESscDpS_TrUFrNiQCCo/s800/green.jpg

[fledge]

3,6,9.

[EO3]

Not sure who all has seen these, but the SMOS Quad Rails are officially released now!
http://i.imgur.com/1ZgpNiI.jpg

[UWone77]

Not sure who all has seen these, but the SMOS Quad Rails are officially released now!
http://i.imgur.com/1ZgpNiI.jpg

Ordered mine, but the Cutout/switchblock version is what I'm waiting for.

Barrel Nut still sucks.

[EO3]

Ordered mine, but the Cutout/switchblock version is what I'm waiting for.

Barrel Nut still sucks.

Waiting for that cutout version as well. What don't you like about the barrel nut?

[fledge]

Saw the quad. Thought about it for a future SPR.

For me on barrel nut: timing required and no lightweight option.

[UWone77]

Saw the quad. Thought about it for a future SPR.

For me on barrel nut: timing required and no lightweight option.

This right here. Any barrel nut that require timing is from the stone age. Frankly the NSR/SMOS barrel nuts are crap. A redesign is badly needed.

[EO3]

This right here. Any barrel nut that require timing is from the stone age. Frankly the NSR/SMOS barrel nuts are crap. A redesign is badly needed.

I figured. I don't disagree... I guess I just kind of deal with it. Still like the Geissele barrel nut the most, I think.

[UWone77]

I figured. I don't disagree... I guess I just kind of deal with it. Still like the Geissele barrel nut the most, I think.

Must be all those years of experience talking. [:D]

[EO3]

Must be all those years of experience talking. [:D]

Yeah, I started building rifles back in the early 70's.... got quite a few years under my belt [pop]

[Deadwing]

This right here. Any barrel nut that require timing is from the stone age. Frankly the NSR/SMOS barrel nuts are crap. A redesign is badly needed.

That's a fact. Even with the Noveske barrels nuts being threaded on both ends and the threads on each end being offset, i've had to use shims to correctly time them. Without the shims, the torque value was either below spec, or i got it as tight as i could and it still wasn't timed correctly. I will say that for a barrel nut that requires timing, ALG got it right with their EMR. They include a special barrel nut wrench, shims, and extremely detailed and easy to follow instructions on how to time the barrel nut correctly, which resulted in a perfectly timed barrel nut on the first try...and no cursing was necessary!

[UWone77]

That's a fact. Even with the Noveske barrels nuts being threaded on both ends and the threads on each end being offset, i've had to use shims to correctly time them. Without the shims, the torque value was either below spec, or i got it as tight as i could and it still wasn't timed correctly. I will say that for a barrel nut that requires timing, ALG got it right with their EMR. They include a special barrel nut wrench, shims, and extremely detailed and easy to follow instructions on how to time the barrel nut correctly, which resulted in a perfectly timed barrel nut on the first try...and no cursing was necessary!

I'm hoping SMOS is coming out with something new as they release new products this year and into next. Untimed barrel nut for their rails would be at the top of my list.

[alamo5000]

I'm hoping SMOS is coming out with something new as they release new products this year and into next. Untimed barrel nut for their rails would be at the top of my list.

There are a lot of rails that I like but when it comes to buying one if I have to time the nut it automatically goes way down on my list. It's like my own standard requirement for buying rails.

[Deadwing]

I'm hoping SMOS is coming out with something new as they release new products this year and into next. Untimed barrel nut for their rails would be at the top of my list.

That would be awesome if they released a rail like that. Hopefully something compatible with a wide range of uppers. I was really bummed when i found out a Geissele rail wouldn't work with a Mega billet upper without having to modify one or the other.

In the meantime, their new quad rails make me want to order another GFY set. As if i need another AR. [BD]

[Jinxy]

I have used a few different rails: BCM, Fortis with milspec nut, Fortis switch, SLR, Geiselle, Samsons, Noveske, SMOS, Midwest Industries, Rainier Arms/Seekins BAR style.

I will agree its nice not having to time a nut, but I far prefer the looks of the Noveske NSR's and SMOS rails. I've never ran into any issues with timing following Noveskes instructions. I have had to flip one around before. I feel like the extra little effort is worth it....JMO

[Deadwing]

I have used a few different rails: BCM, Fortis with milspec nut, Fortis switch, SLR, Geiselle, Samsons, Noveske, SMOS, Midwest Industries, Rainier Arms/Seekins BAR style.

I will agree its nice not having to time a nut, but I far prefer the looks of the Noveske NSR's and SMOS rails. I've never ran into any issues with timing following Noveskes instructions. I have had to flip one around before. I feel like the extra little effort is worth it....JMO

I once had an NSR barrel nut that just would not time correctly with proper torque (i think Noveske says 40 ft.-lb.). but, i was able to time it at 35#, so thats where it stayed. so far so good.

In other news, i finally finished my GFY build from the parts i bought during the original deal SMOS offered us WEVO folks. It's gone through a lot of changes since i started, but i'm real happy with how it turned out. I'll post pics soon, maybe even resurrect Pyzik's SMOS build thread. [BD]

[Deadwing]

My SMOS GFY set is finally a complete rifle. Given the awesome deal SMOS gave us on the receivers, my goal was to build this rifle for as little money as possible yet not sacrifice quality in the process. The only thing i purchased specifically for this gun was the barrel. Everything else was on hand, or became available for use in this build as parts came off other rifles for various reasons. After a lot of swapping around of parts trying to get this gun just right, i went with a Ballistic Advantage Modern Series barrel chambered in 5.56 nato with their pinned low profile gas block and melonite gas tube, a Smith Vortex flash hider, Troy BUIS, Magpul MOE furniture in FDE, an Aimpoint ACO in a QRP mount, Rainier Arms Raptor charging handle, ALG QMS trigger, RCA nitrided BCG (i blacked out their logo with some cold blue), Impact Weapons QD receiver end plate, Strike Industries magazine catch and button, and a Noveske takedown/pivot pin set for shits and giggles.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/C590B900-264D-4411-B4CE-E33029BF7886_zpsglcl53lp.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/C590B900-264D-4411-B4CE-E33029BF7886_zpsglcl53lp.jpg.html)

[fledge]

The beauty of a practical shooter. Very nice. I've wondered how the BA modern series holds groups.


and a Noveske takedown/pivot pin set for shits and giggles.

Hahaha I think what's why it's called the GFY.

[BoilerUp]

My SMOS GFY set is finally a complete rifle. Given the awesome deal SMOS gave us on the receivers, my goal was to build this rifle for as little money as possible yet not sacrifice quality in the process. The only thing i purchased specifically for this gun was the barrel. Everything else was on hand, or became available for use in this build as parts came off other rifles for various reasons. After a lot of swapping around of parts trying to get this gun just right, i went with a Ballistic Advantage Modern Series barrel chambered in 5.56 nato with their pinned low profile gas block and melonite gas tube, a Smith Vortex flash hider, Troy BUIS, Magpul MOE furniture in FDE, an Aimpoint ACO in a QRP mount, Rainier Arms Raptor charging handle, ALG QMS trigger, RCA nitrided BCG (i blacked out their logo with some cold blue), Impact Weapons QD receiver end plate, Strike Industries magazine catch and button, and a Noveske takedown/pivot pin set for shits and giggles.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/C590B900-264D-4411-B4CE-E33029BF7886_zpsglcl53lp.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/C590B900-264D-4411-B4CE-E33029BF7886_zpsglcl53lp.jpg.html)

Very nice build. Well, I mean, if quality components in a highly functional configuration with aesthetically pleasing clean lines is your thing...

I'm with feldge, though, please report back on the performance of the barrel. I want, and expect, to see BA meeting their 1MOA guarantee.

[SINNER]

I have 2 6.5 Creedmoor barrels from BA and they both are sub MOA barrels.

[Deadwing]

Hahaha I think what's why it's called the GFY.

I know. [BD] I couldn't help myself! :P



The beauty of a practical shooter. Very nice. I've wondered how the BA modern series holds groups.


Very nice build. Well, I mean, if quality components in a highly functional configuration with aesthetically pleasing clean lines is your thing...

I'm with feldge, though, please report back on the performance of the barrel. I want, and expect, to see BA meeting their 1MOA guarantee.

Thanks, guys. I haven't shot this barrel for accuracy yet, but i've got a BA Hanson series barrel that will shoot sub MOA. I have high hopes that this will be similar in performance.

[Pyzik]

My SMOS GFY set is finally a complete rifle. Given the awesome deal SMOS gave us on the receivers, my goal was to build this rifle for as little money as possible yet not sacrifice quality in the process. The only thing i purchased specifically for this gun was the barrel. Everything else was on hand, or became available for use in this build as parts came off other rifles for various reasons. After a lot of swapping around of parts trying to get this gun just right, i went with a Ballistic Advantage Modern Series barrel chambered in 5.56 nato with their pinned low profile gas block and melonite gas tube, a Smith Vortex flash hider, Troy BUIS, Magpul MOE furniture in FDE, an Aimpoint ACO in a QRP mount, Rainier Arms Raptor charging handle, ALG QMS trigger, RCA nitrided BCG (i blacked out their logo with some cold blue), Impact Weapons QD receiver end plate, Strike Industries magazine catch and button, and a Noveske takedown/pivot pin set for shits and giggles.

[IMG]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/Deadwing76/C590B900-264D-4411-B4CE-E33029BF7886_zpsglcl53lp.jpg[IMG] (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Deadwing76/media/C590B900-264D-4411-B4CE-E33029BF7886_zpsglcl53lp.jpg.html)

Sexy.

[Deadwing]

Sexy.

Thanks, Pyzik. Not quite as elegant as yours turned out to be, but i'm happy with it.

[Pyzik]

Thanks, Pyzik. Not quite as elegant as yours turned out to be, but i'm happy with it.

I think it turned out great. At least you have a (quality) optic on it. Mine is still naked.