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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyzik View Post
    Trust just arrived. So, now I really need to figure out what I'm doing so I can get an OAL figured out!
    You are finally getting into the NFA thing? Congrats.

    I have never used it before but the Silencer Shop has a thing where you can do your SBR forms for a small fee. I would definitely give that a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alamo5000 View Post
    You are finally getting into the NFA thing? Congrats.

    I have never used it before but the Silencer Shop has a thing where you can do your SBR forms for a small fee. I would definitely give that a go.
    Yup. There is a kiosk at one of my local FFLs. I think it's $35. Totally worth it. And their bar-code system is up and working so it's perfect timing for me..... as long as I can figure out OAL... LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyzik View Post
    Yup. There is a kiosk at one of my local FFLs. I think it's $35. Totally worth it. And their bar-code system is up and working so it's perfect timing for me..... as long as I can figure out OAL... LOL
    How many people are on your trust? Each one of those people will need to have a log in and do their prints at the kiosk, take a photo, etc. I would go ahead and upload the trust and get that stuff started first. Once it's all set up the rest is easy. Most of it is just a one and done.

    The only thing I have to do now is once a year just upload a new selfie. The prints and all that stay on file. Getting everyone there is more time consuming than actually doing the rest of it.

    Figuring out OAL is easy but someone else will have to tell you how to officially do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alamo5000 View Post
    How many people are on your trust? Each one of those people will need to have a log in and do their prints at the kiosk, take a photo, etc. I would go ahead and upload the trust and get that stuff started first. Once it's all set up the rest is easy. Most of it is just a one and done.

    The only thing I have to do now is once a year just upload a new selfie. The prints and all that stay on file. Getting everyone there is more time consuming than actually doing the rest of it.

    Figuring out OAL is easy but someone else will have to tell you how to officially do it.
    Just me for now to keep it simple. Once the SBR is done and myabe an SBS (have one sitting here ready to file, just need the $200) I'll add my wife.

    Well, you might think the OAL is easy but I still don't really know if I want to go .300 or 5.56. What barrel length do I want? 8" or 9" for .300, 7.5 or 10 for 5.56? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyzik View Post
    Just me for now to keep it simple. Once the SBR is done and myabe an SBS (have one sitting here ready to file, just need the $200) I'll add my wife.

    Well, you might think the OAL is easy but I still don't really know if I want to go .300 or 5.56. What barrel length do I want? 8" or 9" for .300, 7.5 or 10 for 5.56? LOL
    As far as who is on the trust once you get it done once it's easy after that. I have two people on mine and it's now very simple to do. Once you submit stuff they send each person an email and you have to digitally sign and that's about it. Plus each person needs to keep a picture on file that gets updated once a year.

    I did 10.5 on my SBR and I like it. In that caliber though I personally am not sure if I would go lower than that. I am sure people do it all the time. If you are going for super compact then just register it as a .300 with an 8" barrel or something like that. Having other uppers is not too hard.

    Then again I say that but considering that I like nice stuff my uppers aren't cheap especially when you start adding nice glass to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alamo5000 View Post
    If you are going for super compact then just register it as a .300 with an 8" barrel or something like that. Having other uppers is not too hard.
    Again, that's not how the law reads. From a legal/ATF perspective (versus what any JoeBob on the internet says), you are requesting to manufacturer a firearm, so what you're making needs to be exactly what you put on the form. Once permission is granted and the firearm is manufactured, then you can run 16 other uppers on it (assuming it's an AR SBR that was manufactured). But just "put something short and pick a cool caliber" isn't how the ATF expects you to apply for the tax.

    Of course what JoeBob does is JoeBob's business, but in the interest of putting out correct information, it's important be precise with words.

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    I'm just going to file it at 25.5" and go with a 10.5" 5.56 to start. That'll keep me RIGHT under 26" which is my MAX OAL I wanted to be at due to state laws.
    Going 5.56 will offer me the simplicity of only dealing with a single caliber between guns.

    I'll branch out from there once a suppressor is closer to being in my future.

    Thanks all! I'll be filing asap.
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