Has anyone tried any Underwood Ammo?

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Source: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....l=1#post349133

Like UWone77, I'd just stick with whatever Gary Roberts recommends.

I am using 124gr HST now. Again I chose it based on reliability as well as reputation. I also do not use +P rounds.

That said my thought to try something different is based around my carry weapon. I EDC a P938 which has a 3" barrel. While I don't plan on shooting anyone but if that ever happens there are probably 10,000 other things I should worry about other than the bullet. Freaking out (or not freaking out) and having adrenaline and all that is obviously way more important.

Since I carry a small gun and will lose velocity I was kind of curious about the barrier blind aspect. Those underwood bullets seem to check both boxes.

I don't know who Gary Roberts is but then again that's why I am asking this here (to learn).

If I can get reliable feeding, better penetration through barriers, and I don't have to worry about bullet deformation or other stuff like my HP clogging up it could be viable if the wound cavity is still comparable. On paper or in a lab it seems superior but I am no expert. It might be some whiz bang new thing but then again it might not be.

I still have no doubt that if anyone got shot with a standard velocity HST, even out of a pocket gun, their attitude would change. Not sure if changing would be worth it or not.

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I don't know who Gary Roberts is but then again that's why I am asking this here (to learn).

FYI:

Dr. Roberts is currently on staff at a large teaching hospital and Level I Trauma center were he performs hospital dentistry and surgery. After completing his residency at Navy Hospital Oakland in 1989 while on active military duty, he studied at the Army Wound Ballistic Research Laboratory at the Letterman Army Institute of Research and became one of the first members of the International Wound Ballistic Association. Since then, he has been tasked with performing military, law enforcement, and privately funded independent wound ballistic testing and analysis. As a Navy Reserve officer from 1986 to 2008, he served on the Joint Service Wound Ballistic IPT, as well as being a consultant to the Joint FBI-USMC munitions testing program and the TSWG MURG program. He is frequently asked to provide wound ballistic technical assistance to numerous U.S. and allied SOF units and organizations. In addition, he has been a technical advisor to the Association of Firearms and Toolmark Examiners, as well as to a variety of Federal, State, and municipal law enforcement agencies. He has been a sworn Reserve Police Officer in the San Francisco Bay Area, where he now he serves in an LE training role.

His ammo list for handguns: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....f-Defense-Ammo

By all accounts, HST is already pretty good against barriers, particularly for a non-bonded round. If you're really that worried, Gold Dot is bonded, and even has special "Short Barrel" versions if you're that worried about shorter barrels.