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Thread: Apex Trigger's for Glocks
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25 February 2017, 12:26 #16
I've been to the Glock armorer 5 or 6 times, starting back in 96 and never told we couldn't change anything. Glock just pushes the "Glock is perfect" angle like most companies do. The last class I was at the instructor was pretty honest and open about things and commented Glock changes things just so departments and people want to buy new models. When it came to aftermarket parts, he would comment that it was a Glock course and while there were other options, he was paid to be there to teach Glocks.
They have mentioned in multiple classes switching parts to create a different trigger pull, but none of them felt all that crisp to me.
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25 February 2017, 17:19 #17
His "paid to be there to teach Glock" makes perfect sense." However, my experiences, especially in Glock forums pertaining to modifications and aftermarket parts have been different". Armorers, or at least those who had been to an armorers course go on ad nauseam to the 5th power squared, concerning not using aftermarket or modifying Glock parts. I've learned the hard way that they were more often than not, correct. If I was as active of a pistol shooter that I used to be, I'd like to go to the course, but now I just try to keep my SD skills halfway alive, and it just wouldn't be worth it, especially since I carry an M&P most of the time.
The method that I used and posted to get a smooth trigger with a "safe" 3.5 to 4lb. pull, still won't get you a "crisp" e.g. tuned 1911 trigger break. Probably many more ways to do it, but it's been a reliable, repeatable formula for me. The only AM trigger, for a striker fired pistol I've found that comes even close to that is the APEX FSS which I have one of in all 3 of my M&P's. The downside of that is that it's illegal in a lot of competition classes, and are almost universally a no-go for LEO carry.
TACT: Got the PM. Thanks. I decided on and purchased a KKM match barrel. I hope to get good accuracy and reliable feeding with it. If not, this is going to be one hell of an expensive experiment. I've almost forgot this was going to be fun.
FTLast edited by FortTom; 25 February 2017 at 17:31.
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3 March 2017, 18:49 #18
Consider the Arsenal Democracy SWiTCH trigger - it's a Whole New Breed.
https://www.arsenaldemocracy.us/product/switch/
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3 March 2017, 18:51 #19
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23 April 2017, 19:07 #20
Old thread but..
I have had a overwatch tac trigger in my g19 since last year
Have still yet to find the connector/spring combo that I truly like..maybe I'm trying to hard but I still think I can get it better..I phuck with everything..lol..
But a lw, ghost , dot,std 5.5 glock, and stock spring and zev extra power spring
Haven't tried and different aftermarket strikers /striker springs , just a good inspection and polish of what needs to be.
But compared to stock it is much better , nice flat face to finger and out of the box it is a shorter take up to the wall..but still (for me atleast) it's more noticeable then I was led on , but still better all round for me and GLOCK triggers..I have noticed I do shoot a little better..as far as groups before and after..
I still need to round up a minus connector to try, seems most like the dot and minus with this trigger
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23 April 2017, 19:30 #21
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23 April 2017, 20:34 #22
I've got like 3 or 4 overwatch triggers I've been trying out. Much like yourself, I have yet to find the perfect connector/spring combo. So far I find it just barely better than the stock Glock trigger. I'll give it a few thousand more rounds to break in though before I decide if I like it or not.
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24 April 2017, 01:58 #23LEO / MIL
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I thought the whole premise or mission behind the Overwatch/Robar trigger was basically keeping as close to stock (trigger pull weight) while just improving the pre-travel over an OEM trigger.
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24 April 2017, 03:31 #24
Right on, running any with lighter strikers /springs?
I know you have a few different glock triggers..got a favorite?
Ya pre and over travel, plus slightly shorter reach, here's a copy of overwatch's description
The flat face reduces trigger reach by 0.24", making this an ideal option for smaller statured shooters. Pre-travel has been reduced as much as possible without compromising firearm safety features, resulting in a clean, crisp break, and reduced overtravel. Robar's NP3 plating provides virtually impermeable corrosion resistance and smooth, grit-free operation. Note that trigger pull weight does not change from factory weight with the use of this trigger alone.
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24 April 2017, 03:48 #25LEO / MIL
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Yeah, I know the description. I was referring to what I read or heard from someone associated with the development of the trigger.
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24 April 2017, 04:10 #26
Gotcha, was just Dropping some info..
Kinda wish I had a trigger scale for the hell of it, to see aft/before weights from stock to just trigger , to more exotic striker/sprig setups
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24 April 2017, 11:55 #27