Thanks for the info guys.

UW: I couldn't find the SF locally, everybody only had the standard so I was never able to actually put one in my hand. Reviews are split 50/50 on the 10mm, some love it some don't like it. I want something I can train and shoot with on a regular basis. I heard the recoil is a little rough so if it doesn't fit my hand re-gripping after each shot just plain sucks. I suppose if someone I knew had one and I could run a few boxes down the pipe I would have a better idea but I dont.

Sinner: Thats what I was hearing online so I looked around at ammo availability for the .357 and the offerings are surprisingly pretty good. I only buy by the case so the HST's and gold dots are right on par with the 9mm offerings. FMJ training stuff is a little more though.