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Thread: RDS recommendations
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22 May 2019, 13:05 #46
Questions that may or not may help Alamo, but I'm curious to the answer...
1. Does the MRO handle magnifiers well? One reason why I think the T2 can be worth the price is because of how good the dot looks under magnification with any kind of astigmatism. I never heard if the MRO had similar characteristics.
2. When I've looked through an MRO, the slight magnification was distracting, along with the tint. But I never shot with a MRO. Do you find the tint/mag to go away when actually shooting? The same can be said for a RMR RM06, but when I'm busy actually shooting a pistol with one, the mag all but goes away and the tint is barely noticeable (or maybe it's the other way around, but you get the point).
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22 May 2019, 13:27 #47
FT, no sarcasm intended. Just curious if you had a source since that MRO price is rock bottom for Alamo’s purposes. I can’t find any new T1 or T2 in the ballpark. You can practically buy 2 MROs for a T2s. I’d recommend it to any family or friend to jump on it at that price now!
Gator, I’ve no idea. I know the T2 fixed the magnifier problem of the T1s. But magnifiers don’t make sense to me and are an older solution. Bulky and low magnification. A Steiner P4Xi 1-4 is a better solution IMO and is in the $400 range.
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22 May 2019, 13:35 #48
I think, not sure, but think I saw the M5 also on sale, but I can't remember if it was PA, or Optic's planet that had it. OP might do a search real quick if they're knocking off a good size chunk of cash. I don't think all models of RDS's were on sale, but if that MRO is what he has in his heart, I'd take a quick look, anyway.
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22 May 2019, 13:42 #49
Well, UW, in that case let me come rummage through your stuff. I'm sure you wouldn't take it personally if I picked up a thing or two, and took it home with me?
Obviously kidding. I like certain stuff, and others like other stuff, but I don't take it personally if they dis my stuff, if they can explain why, and show me a better way.
It's all good. Also, my ex is gone. I've paid off child support, then college tuitions, student loans and they are adults now. With that said, I notice a little bit of extra money in the till. To bad I had to wait until I was too old to do anything cool with it.
All is good.
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22 May 2019, 15:03 #50
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22 May 2019, 15:40 #51
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22 May 2019, 15:56 #52
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22 May 2019, 16:17 #53
The only thing I question, is buying a RDS and then spending a small fortune for a magnifier. Hell, if you're going to do all of that, why not go with a 1X4 or 6 or etc. scope? My instincts are if you buy a magnifier, you want to see a long ways, so why not buy a Vortex or other variable, depending what your budget is? That, a QD mount and some BUIS and you're covered for a lot of situations. You don't have to buy a $1500 Vortex, there are many good quality scopes and mounts that would serve you well for half of that.
Oh well, I hope whatever you do, it works out great for you.
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22 May 2019, 17:34 #54
Hahaha! I don't know about magnifiers but one thing that is an option for much later on is NV.
I will either get some kind of NV set up or I can possibly borrow one for.pig hunting.
While right now a T2 might be a bit of overkill unless something drastic happen I will eventually branch out to other fun things like pig blasting in the dark.
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22 May 2019, 17:46 #55
You friggin' wuss, back in the day we hunted pigs at night with a standard quality 3X9 hunting scope. I hear they won't attack you if you're wearing pink combat , panties, or pink snake boots. NV for pigs is for pussies. Wish all of my old buds were here to give you hell about "NV for Pigs". I bet after the kill, you all share popsicles, fruity tuty kind, and root beer to celebrate.
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22 May 2019, 17:50 #56
RE: MRO - I've tried everything in my power to break my MRO which I purchased as soon as they were available, and I could not yet do so. It's on an EDC AR of mine and it doesn't have any issues at all. With that said, I'd have purchased a green 2MOA MRO if given the chance to do it all over again. GDS is better than RDS in my opinion.
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22 May 2019, 17:54 #57
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22 May 2019, 18:21 #58
That's pretty much how I think about it, too. If I want magnification, I use an LPVO. I guess the flip side is the Razor 1-6 functions reasonable well as a RDS at 1x. Magnifers seem impractical to me, but I think I understand the allure. For a long time, I wanted the Eotech set up with the 4 dots and the magnifier, but now I'd much rather put that coin towards another Razor
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22 May 2019, 18:40 #59
I think that if a person still has one and it works, fine. But with today's scopes, it just doesn't make sense to me. More shit, more weight, blah blah blah. With todays's 1X((name it), and many good ones to fit just about anyone's budget, scopes and magnifiers don't make sense, unless you have an older red dot and NEED magnification. I agree with your assessment, as far as that goes. Hell, I didn't like them when the "fantastic" 1 by *you name it" scopes came out. Not trying to be "passive/aggressive", but I guess to each his own.
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22 May 2019, 18:42 #60
One answer is that your usage only requires a dot 90+% of the time, but every so often you require a little more mag. For most LVPOs (but not all, of course), the RDS is going to be quicker and lighter. So the few times you need the magnifier, you either attach it or just flip it into "use mode" and do what you need to do.
Does every rifle need this for every use-case? Of course not. But when either a LVPO isn't needed, or a LVPO (that matches your usage...read: more capable which equals more expensive) on every rifle is cost-prohibitive, the magnifier fill a niche.