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Thread: VCROWN vs HST
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28 November 2019, 18:50 #16
And more..there’s all kinds on sale
200 Round Case - 9mm Luger 147 Grain GDHP Speer Gold Dot Personal Protection Ammo - 23619GD
http://www.sgammo.com/product/speer-...l-protection-a
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2 December 2019, 20:47 #17
250 rounds of 9mm 124gr HST police Trade-in for $95: https://www.recoilgunworks.com/trade...d-p-52155.html
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2 December 2019, 22:38 #18
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2 December 2019, 23:10 #19
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2 December 2019, 23:13 #20
Bone Frog Gun Club
https://www.bonefroggunclub.com/
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2 December 2019, 23:21 #21
Just clicked through again and I guess I caught em at the right time Should have bought 4 boxes instead of 3. I'm guessing it was a Black Friday sale or something.
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3 December 2019, 00:36 #22
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3 December 2019, 18:57 #23
If the ammo isn't on DocGKR's list, you'll not convince me to use it as carry ammo. HST is. VCROWN ain't.
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3 December 2019, 19:44 #24
I bought 150 rounds. Not sure if I am a member or not :) As long as I can get good deals on ammo I'm good.
It was really a whim purchase. Money burning a hole in my pocket. I will do my tests and if HST runs reliably then that's my go to.
It's been proven. That and hydro shock would both be ok. From what I've read HST works great even in shorter ish barrels.
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3 December 2019, 19:48 #25
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3 December 2019, 20:08 #26
That's interesting for sure. Terminal ballistics is definitely interesting to study. I used to love back in the day watching all the gel tests and so forth on YouTube.
Now especially with the trend of really small guns I think it's important to pay attention to.
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4 December 2019, 18:57 #27
I'm partial to 147-150 gr HST's in my carry guns. HD guns get +P Critical Duty. The little extra helps with barriers over Critical Defense, according to Hornady. I'm a big fan of XTP's for training and summer carry. Ya gotta put the money into practicing with what you carry, IMO.
There's no "Team" in F**K YOU!
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4 December 2019, 20:45 #28
Why do you prefer heavies? Any particular reason?
Where I live we do not have bad winters. You could live your life with a light jacket most of the time. Only every once in a while (or if you are working outside) will you need a heavy coat. All together it might be a month added up throughout the year.
As for overall carry, I've always gone with 124 grain. That said above and beyond any ammo...to me it's all about practice. I got a new carry gun and so far I've put several hundred rounds through it. I am checking the function of the gun but also seeing how I shoot it. I definitely have had to make a few adjustments. Today I was out shooting a 4 inch square at 10 yards...Eventually I want to get to where I can hit that from a draw without thinking about it too much, at least that's the goal. I definitely think I need to shoot a lot more.
I can just go shoot and get proficient with the weapon but I still would like to take a class. Just because I can shoot doesn't mean I am good at fighting.
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5 December 2019, 13:53 #29
Less muzzle flip out of short barreled pistols. I usually carry something with a 3" to 3.5" barrel for concealment purposes. With a lightweight, short barreled pistol, it will flip with 115's, the little bit more weight helps stay on target. And yes, you can shoot the ass out of a goose at 1,000 yds, but if you don't have the nerve to pull the trigger when that time comes, you'll be just as dead, but heavier by the weight of an un-used defensive firearm. Ayoob does a great mindset lecture.
Last edited by Joelski; 5 December 2019 at 13:58.
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7 December 2019, 04:43 #30
Here's some great info from Mr. Butler himself.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B5wLknS...=1bshi1pzf3kxyThere's no "Team" in F**K YOU!