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23 June 2021, 19:08 #46
I am not here to convince you to like my choices. The tone of your replies here says your mind is already made up. No amount of typing will change that and it certainly won't provide any validation for me.
My whole reason for building a 6 ARC was because it was low hanging fruit for a goal of mine. I didn't own a 1000+ yard gun. I've been wanting one for quite a long time and I was working towards that goal. I still will build or buy something nice when the opportunity arises. Then all of the sudden 6ARC came out and it was low hanging fruit. For the cost of an upper I could do it while I get the rest of my crap together. If I already had a 1000 yard gun the odds of me building a 6ARC would have been very low. That said the capabilities it brings to a standard AR platform is very interesting.
It wasn't 15 minutes from the announcement of the ARC that the Grendel boys were screaming and flooding the internet with how bad it sucked. Having never seen one, held one, or shot one, they all 'knew' it sucked. I really don't understand that mindset. It's not like this is some turf war, at least not to me.
The 6 ARC does what I want it to do. If it doesn't all I am out is maybe the cost of an upper, but really not even that. Hell, when they released load data I looked and had 16 unopened pounds of the prime powder(s) for 6 ARC. For me it was 'hell, all I need is some brass and bullets' type of thinking which largely is still true. Like I said, it was low hanging fruit to accomplish a goal of shooting beyond 1000 yards for as cheaply as I can.
All that being said there is very little on the 6 ARC that hasn't been tested extensively. Bullets? People have been shooting 6mm forever. There is a whole big selection of bullets out there. Unlike the 224Valkyrie it wasn't relying on a single bullet type to make it's claims work. Mags? People have been shooting those Grendel mags for a while now. The ARC was a new soup made from a ton of old technology that just happened to be applied into a new cartridge. When 6.5 Creed came out no one was saying 'the mags will suck' simply because it uses the same mags. Pretty much the same thing is true with the 6 ARC.
In my analysis of things I quickly turned away from the Valkyrie. That said I liked the ARC 100x more because there weren't any obvious failure points or huge 'unknowns' that I could find.
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25 June 2021, 18:02 #47
Lol..yep..I’m not reading all that and replying..my mind is made up, it’s just another novelty round that will die...
Another one to look at is the 6mm creedmoor. More powder room for dem 6mm freedom seeds
But, for the sake of science.. update us on how it works out..
And for the phuck Ing record..No grendel fan boy here.. always been a 6.5 fan. Since my first intro to it..260
I got the barrel for free thru some trades and got some ammo for cheap a few years back for the brass , so it worked out.
Another positive for the grendel is the cheap steel case Ammo for blasting and steel..it’s actually pretty accurate , and for what I payed for it .29 cents a rd.. cheaper then 556 in every way and accurate enough for .I don’t shoot it as much as I need more Mag in the scope department to actually shoot groups at range..Last edited by mustangfreek; 25 June 2021 at 18:13.
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11 July 2021, 11:16 #48
Some (not very good) 6 ARC info:
https://youtu.be/OC2E2IkXAC0
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11 July 2021, 13:45 #49
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11 July 2021, 17:47 #50
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24 July 2021, 05:34 #51
An update from Eagle Eye:
https://youtu.be/ZG71DSu9sbY
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1 August 2021, 08:37 #52
And another:
https://youtu.be/xy9gHwtB8sQ
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3 August 2021, 17:52 #53
Looks like a really thin faxon barrel
The 24” Bartlein 6ARC by Craddock I dropped in my friends Seekins set is ridiculously accurate with white box Hornady ELD ammo.
You get what you pay for. Not that Faxon is a bottom of the barrel brand but I know that Bartlein will shoot before I even buy it.
$320 vs $712
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4 August 2021, 08:30 #54
Using the video of that guy fumbling his way into a poor group as proof of poor performance is like getting your weather from the neighbor then blaming the radar for inaccuracies.
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4 August 2021, 14:58 #55
Dood blames the ammo when his kid outshot him, cold.
Seems full of it to me!There's no "Team" in F**K YOU!
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9 August 2021, 08:51 #56
Another video from Eagle Eye:
https://youtu.be/7ArCIa71Z6A
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9 August 2021, 15:16 #57
That guy's videos seem like he's trying to sell something. Whether it's barrels or gunsmithing services it really comes across like that to me.
Those cartridges, the 6.5 Grendel and 6mmARC are both handloading cartridges for the most part. The Grendel has more offerings because it's been around a lot longer, but his primary basis for the series is that (according to him) 6ARC factory ammo won't shoot in his guns. Then he says 6 ARC is jump sensitive so he says he wants to "fix it".
While I don't doubt that you could tailor make a barrel for a given bullet the 6 ARC is still quite new. There is still an on going debate about barrel twist. Personally I think anything 20 to maybe 22 inches or shorter should have a 1:7 twist as the standard for "generic" barrels.
Again he is talking about a different metric in barrel manufacturing. For me having a barrel with jump set up for the whole range of 6mm bullets vs something really specific is definitely something to watch (that is if it ever even becomes an issue). If I can make my gun shoot half a minute I'll be good to go. I won't even bother trying to do that with factory ammo though.
I have a very specific niche that I want this to fill. I'm not going to be gopher hunting with light weight bullets. I want mine to fill a gap between 500 yards and 1000 + yards. I will take mine farther than that but I have a specific thing I want to do.
All in all I think it will be really hard to make a gun shoot everything good. Shooting 80 grain all the way up to 115 grain and expecting perfection at every step along the way isn't realistic in my opinion.
The 6ARC is really a diverse cartridge, sort of like the 300 BLK. Some of the reports for a 12.5" SBR in 6ARC are impressive. Likewise they are being shot out to a mile.
While I think there is plenty of room to go off in the weeds tailor making a barrel for a given application, I don't think his claim that it's "an inherently inaccurate cartridge" are true at all. And I'm not comparing it to the 6.5 Grendel either. If you like it, shoot it. It's all welcome as far as I am concerned.
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9 August 2021, 16:28 #58
On a separate note this Rainier Arms barrel looks really good. The only thing I question is the need for a +2 gas system. Even a +1 might be ok but I don't see the need for it based on my really limited use.
I'm sure it will probably be a great shooter though. If I hadn't just put together my upper I would jump on it.
https://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-...fle-barrel-22/
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10 August 2021, 02:46 #59
@alamo5000
How's your 6 ARC performing? Have you had a chance to wring it out now that you've got your scope stuff figured out?
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10 August 2021, 08:51 #60