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18 March 2014, 03:48 #1
Don't try this at home
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18 March 2014, 17:45 #2Member
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I saw that recently, it's a bit nutty. Impressive in a way though
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18 March 2014, 18:19 #3
Just goes to show you, even the guy doing the drill (and I assume he's done it many times before) still has a ND into the ground on the second drill.
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18 March 2014, 18:45 #4Almost Tactical Gear Reviews
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Holy smokes...that was insanity. I am glad I am not shooting buddies with those guys! That is crazy stuff.
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18 March 2014, 19:43 #5
What!
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19 March 2014, 04:35 #6
Crazy suckers..Larry even looked a little..like WTF..lol
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20 March 2014, 01:52 #7
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23 March 2014, 16:45 #8
I saw more than one ND, which just makes me ask what the value of this is. Yeah, I get it, it's entertainment (on however I'm supposed to watch Vickers TV), but still. None of that is really all that valuable as a training milestone, which I would hope would be Vickers' point.
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24 March 2014, 04:19 #9
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24 March 2014, 06:33 #10Almost Tactical Gear Reviews
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24 March 2014, 07:25 #11
They do not train the way we do. They have different safety rules and use of force levels.
Think about it logically.
If you were in an active shooting situation, you shot people, you were being shot and you had people attempting fight you, hand to hand, having a pistol in your hand, would a round in the ground at their feet not be the best way of getting them to stop doing whatever they are trying to do.
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24 March 2014, 10:40 #12Contributing Member
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I don't know, that bullet looked like it was very close to his own foot. I see your point though. Crazy, well more stupid, but that's just me.
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24 March 2014, 12:10 #13
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24 March 2014, 14:29 #14
I only saw the clip, so maybe Vickers went into more depth about what you're saying in the whole show. As it was depicted in the clip, it wasn't very clear.
But as you said, definitely a different level of Use of Force. Basically akin (but somewhat tactically more sound) to firing into the air...I guess.
Quick sea story... At one of my previous commands, our prime mission set involved Maritime Airborne Use of Force. Part of the training was the the UoF simulator where they plop you down into the middle of what seems like a '90's COPS episode and hand you an air-charged M9. In hindsight, it's a great simulator and I'm sure many here have used a similar device.
Well, one of the pilots was up for his training and was put in a scenario where he had to "encourage" the bad guy to stop whatever he was doing, but the action wasn't threatening yet. His solution: yelling, "Stop!!!" and firing his faux M9 into the air.
The simulation quickly stopped and a debrief ensued.
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24 March 2014, 15:01 #15
We had an Lt that loved to pull exercises all the time. He would want to fight and wrestle around. I figured I was in a restricted area where use of deadly force was authorized and if a bad guy didn't want to follow my verbal commands then racking the charging handle was the next step. I'm not going to go toe to toe with an unauthorized intruder in a restricted area. He stopped pulling exercises in my area after the second time.
Sent from my Nokia Lumia Icon using TapatalkLast edited by Computalotapus; 24 March 2014 at 15:27.
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