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8 June 2014, 20:45 #1
Weird Winchester White Box .45ACP Cartridge Failure
Here's an odd one. Anyone seen this before?
I was shooting an XDS .45 for the first time. I don't normally keep .45ACP around so I bought some cheap WWB at the range.
Got through half a box with no issues, then this round made a little "pop" then a "hiss". A little plume of white smoke wafted from the ejection port.
I figured it was a squib, expecting to find the bullet halfway down the barrel. Waited a minute, checked the chamber and found this.
It was covered in black soot and had clearly shot flame into the side of the chamber.
Very strange indeed. First time I've seen one like this.
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8 June 2014, 21:00 #2
MD,
I've shot a crap load of that stuff (WWB). just because it was cheap. Never had any problem, much less a major failure like you pictured. Just took a pause and went back in the safe. Still have 9 boxes of .45 WWB. Nada problem. I had a friend, years ago, shoot a round of 44mag. Completely exploded. Something you'd expect from a bad hand load. He sent the rest back, and they sent him another box of ammo. My thought was BS. Good thing he didn't have a gun explode in his face, just for a free box of ammo.
However, hand loads, or whatever, I guess if we play the game long enough, we'll see something like this happen.
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9 June 2014, 07:04 #3
For some reason the pics aren't loading up on my computer, I'll try again at the house. How you liking the the XDS? My buddy loves his.
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12 June 2014, 01:55 #5
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12 June 2014, 17:45 #6LEO / MIL
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Thats pretty crazy. Do you think it came out of the box like that?
From what it sounds like, only the primer detonated. Makes me think that there was very little, if any powder in the cartridge.
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13 June 2014, 00:31 #7
Federal/Speer gets most of my money when it comes to factory ammo. Winchester gets the second most and a Remington gets very little. Remington has just burned me, and I get too many duds with their 22LR ammo. And their .223 ammo shoots 2 MOA in my rifle while everything else shoots Sub MOA or just a tad over. Too bad too since they're made in my home state.
As for that WWB, that's really weird. I would definitely contact Winchester about it.
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13 June 2014, 08:37 #8
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13 June 2014, 11:53 #9
It looks like it was punctured from the outside in. If it were to have a weak point in the brass wouldn't we see SOME type of bulging? I realize it was chambered so maybe not...
But, as the brass looks, it doesn't appear as though the trauma came from within. If that makes sense.
The brass should be flared out, not in.Ground Defense 1, Blade Defense 1, Defensive Pistol 1 & 2, Aliance Shoot House, When Things Go Bad, YSINTG, Carbine 1, DART Medical, NRA Range Safety Officer
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13 June 2014, 18:22 #10
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14 June 2014, 00:39 #11
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16 June 2014, 04:45 #12
Or there is the other scenario of MoxyDave needing to be tested for PED's and have punctured it with his super human strength.
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16 June 2014, 09:52 #13
Haha yes I probably squeezed it too tightly while loading it in the magazine with my super strong fingers LOL.
I'm not going to make a stink about it with Winchester. It was one in a million. I would never use that shit ammo for anything but plinking anyhow ... even TUL makes better training ammo ...
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16 June 2014, 12:08 #14
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16 June 2014, 15:44 #15